Uh oh guys, the women are starting to figure out we scammed them.

Started by MadImmortalMan, February 19, 2010, 05:13:16 PM

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MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Jaron on February 20, 2010, 05:12:01 AM
I dont think anyone is about to take family and child rearing advice from you. Martinus FTL.


Nonsense! He's an awesome gay super-uncle, remember?
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PDH

Wait, what? Jews breed with rabbits?  I think it is spelled "rabbi."
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Ed Anger

Quote from: PDH on February 20, 2010, 04:25:29 PM
Wait, what? Jews breed with rabbits?  I think it is spelled "rabbi."

That joke isn't kosher.
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Agelastus

Quote from: Martinus on February 20, 2010, 05:53:33 AM
Anyway, it's amazing how so many people seem to operate from a premise that parents actively spending time to raise their children personally is a traditional and time-honored way of doing things, and having someone else to do the task for them (at least part-time) is some newfangled social engineering.  :lol:

Using kindergartens and the like is "newfangled social engineering" in a way. Two hundred years ago, I'd be willing to bet the most common situation was "Grandma will look after them".

I agree though that both parents working is nothing unusual in human history. What is seems to me to be unusual now is that the possibility exists that one parent does not have to go out to work thanks to a century of wage inflation.
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The Best is yet to be
The last of life for which the first was made."

garbon

Quote from: Sheilbh on February 20, 2010, 12:54:41 PM
This is another example of why we need a feminist revolution :mmm:

The readings for my queer class intimated that we should have a feminist/gay overthrow of marriage. I have to say that I've been seduced again.
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Martinus

Quote from: Agelastus on February 20, 2010, 05:37:38 PM
Using kindergartens and the like is "newfangled social engineering" in a way. Two hundred years ago, I'd be willing to bet the most common situation was "Grandma will look after them".

Don't think so. And "two hundred years ago" is still recent when it comes to human history.

For most of the history, and rich and the powerful would hire people to raise their children for them, and the poor wouldn't even bother, usually leaving the children to their own devices (and even earlier, during the tribal era, children were raised collectively, in what was a sort of semi-familial kindergarden).

The only difference between the past and the present is that now, thanks to progress, kids of most people are given opportunities previously reserved for Kings and Princes.

Martinus

Quote from: garbon on February 20, 2010, 05:55:39 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 20, 2010, 12:54:41 PM
This is another example of why we need a feminist revolution :mmm:

The readings for my queer class intimated that we should have a feminist/gay overthrow of marriage. I have to say that I've been seduced again.

Isn't gay marriage movement about this already? I for one only support gay marriage because it's one more step down the road of abolishing it altogether.

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Agelastus

Quote from: Martinus on February 20, 2010, 07:10:07 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on February 20, 2010, 05:37:38 PM
Using kindergartens and the like is "newfangled social engineering" in a way. Two hundred years ago, I'd be willing to bet the most common situation was "Grandma will look after them".
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For most of the history, and rich and the powerful would hire people to raise their children for them, and the poor wouldn't even bother, usually leaving the children to their own devices (and even earlier, during the tribal era, children were raised collectively, in what was a sort of semi-familial kindergarden).

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Who do you think were the most likely group in the community to be watching over this kindergarten, then?
"Come grow old with me
The Best is yet to be
The last of life for which the first was made."

garbon

Quote from: Martinus on February 20, 2010, 07:38:53 PM
Isn't gay marriage movement about this already? I for one only support gay marriage because it's one more step down the road of abolishing it altogether.

How is re-affirming a tradition a step towards abolishing it? :huh:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Neil

Quote from: Martinus on February 20, 2010, 07:10:07 PM
Don't think so. And "two hundred years ago" is still recent when it comes to human history.
No.
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Quote from: Agelastus on February 20, 2010, 07:55:35 PM
Who do you think were the most likely group in the community to be watching over this kindergarten, then?
Super uncles

Grallon

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Neil

Quote from: Grallon on February 21, 2010, 08:46:18 PM
Everything vile in this world is female.
Martinus?  Actually, I suppose I could accept that male homosexuals are mentally ill and they convince themselves that they are females.

And what about Islam?
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.