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Started by stjaba, February 10, 2010, 08:53:19 PM

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Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Hansmeister

Quote from: Viking on February 12, 2010, 11:07:13 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on February 12, 2010, 10:45:11 PM
Palin is a national Rohrschacht test.  the left hate her because she is married, beautiful, and successful.  In short, everything they've been telling women that they can't have in combination.  The beltway types hate her because she isn't your typical brain-dead ivy league pol.  Obama and Biden make more retarded comments on the average newsday than Palin has in her entire time on the political stage, yet somehow she is supposedly stupid.  The center doesn't like Palin because they don't like polarizing political figures, which is why she will have to work very hard to change public perception on that.  Alternatively, she can just wait until all the MSM go out of business, which shouldn't take too long at the current rate.  Too many conservatives are too eager to support her mainly because of the intense hatred directed at her from the left.

I know about a Palin who is a science denier who's abstinence only sex ed for her kid got the kid pregnant and who's doesn't read newspapers, thinks that being mayor of a town 2000 km from Russia makes her a foreign policy specialist and is incapable of pronouncing Joe Biden's name.

Who is this Palin you are talkning about?
I'm talking about Palin, you seem to be talking about Tina Fey since you're busy quoting her.

Hansmeister

Quote from: Martinus on February 13, 2010, 05:42:35 AM
OMG are we living on the same planet? Have you seen her speak publicly? She is a complete idiot - her political views have nothing to do with it - she is just a braindead moron. I may disagree with a lot (most) of the stuff Huckabee, McCain or Giuliani say but I do not cringe with embarassment every time they open their mouths.

Hell, she makes Dubya look like an ivory tower intellectual.

Really?  Can you actually give examples or can you only assert that she sounds stupid?  And how does her sounding stupid compare with Obama and Biden sounding stupid?

Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Fate

Palin has an IQ of 150 and the political skills of Nixon.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Hansmeister on February 14, 2010, 08:17:22 AM
Really?  Can you actually give examples or can you only assert that she sounds stupid?

Well, there was that one line that Fey's Palin quoted verbatim...
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Razgovory

Quote from: Fate on February 14, 2010, 08:54:10 AM
Palin has an IQ of 150 and the political skills of Nixon.

Not that good considering he's be dead for quite a while.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 14, 2010, 09:16:39 AM
Quote from: Hansmeister on February 14, 2010, 08:17:22 AM
Really?  Can you actually give examples or can you only assert that she sounds stupid?

Well, there was that one line that Fey's Palin quoted verbatim...

Alot of the quotes are verbatim.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

dps

Quote from: Razgovory on February 14, 2010, 12:58:09 AM
Which is worse?

Between pandering and affirmative action?  Pandering, obviously.

I'm not opposed to affirmative action as such;  it's just that a lot of what gets pushed as affrimative action is really just a quota system or tokenism.  Or worse, reverse discrimination.

Viking

Quote from: Hansmeister on February 14, 2010, 08:15:16 AM
Quote from: Viking on February 12, 2010, 11:07:13 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on February 12, 2010, 10:45:11 PM
Palin is a national Rohrschacht test.  the left hate her because she is married, beautiful, and successful.  In short, everything they've been telling women that they can't have in combination.  The beltway types hate her because she isn't your typical brain-dead ivy league pol.  Obama and Biden make more retarded comments on the average newsday than Palin has in her entire time on the political stage, yet somehow she is supposedly stupid.  The center doesn't like Palin because they don't like polarizing political figures, which is why she will have to work very hard to change public perception on that.  Alternatively, she can just wait until all the MSM go out of business, which shouldn't take too long at the current rate.  Too many conservatives are too eager to support her mainly because of the intense hatred directed at her from the left.

I know about a Palin who is a science denier who's abstinence only sex ed for her kid got the kid pregnant and who's doesn't read newspapers, thinks that being mayor of a town 2000 km from Russia makes her a foreign policy specialist and is incapable of pronouncing Joe Biden's name.

Who is this Palin you are talkning about?
I'm talking about Palin, you seem to be talking about Tina Fey since you're busy quoting her.

Tina Fey's brilliance in her Palin Impersonation was to quote Palin verbatim. We (and I am a  liberal in the US sense) Liberals don't like Palin because she is stupid and a bible basher. We've already seen what a stupid bible basher can do to america's standing in the world and us atlanticists don't like the idea of another one taking over.

Hansie, if this is an example of the skills of US psyops then I fear for US psyops. If this is your standard then I assume the Taliban picks up your leaflets just as much for the comedy value as the toilet paper value.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Razgovory

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 14, 2010, 11:35:13 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 14, 2010, 10:33:58 AM
Alot of the quotes are verbatim.

This one in particular.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npUMUASwaec

That one is bad.

I just don't trust someone who's political positions are dictated by what someone has written on her palm.  Just imagine, a cagey bastard like Putin might have some sort of hidden stencils in his hand when he shakes Palin's hand she'd end up accidentally selling off large chunks of the US to Russia.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Hansmeister

Quote from: Viking on February 14, 2010, 11:24:02 AM
Quote from: Hansmeister on February 14, 2010, 08:15:16 AM
Quote from: Viking on February 12, 2010, 11:07:13 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on February 12, 2010, 10:45:11 PM
Palin is a national Rohrschacht test.  the left hate her because she is married, beautiful, and successful.  In short, everything they've been telling women that they can't have in combination.  The beltway types hate her because she isn't your typical brain-dead ivy league pol.  Obama and Biden make more retarded comments on the average newsday than Palin has in her entire time on the political stage, yet somehow she is supposedly stupid.  The center doesn't like Palin because they don't like polarizing political figures, which is why she will have to work very hard to change public perception on that.  Alternatively, she can just wait until all the MSM go out of business, which shouldn't take too long at the current rate.  Too many conservatives are too eager to support her mainly because of the intense hatred directed at her from the left.

I know about a Palin who is a science denier who's abstinence only sex ed for her kid got the kid pregnant and who's doesn't read newspapers, thinks that being mayor of a town 2000 km from Russia makes her a foreign policy specialist and is incapable of pronouncing Joe Biden's name.

Who is this Palin you are talkning about?
I'm talking about Palin, you seem to be talking about Tina Fey since you're busy quoting her.

Tina Fey's brilliance in her Palin Impersonation was to quote Palin verbatim. We (and I am a  liberal in the US sense) Liberals don't like Palin because she is stupid and a bible basher. We've already seen what a stupid bible basher can do to america's standing in the world and us atlanticists don't like the idea of another one taking over.

Hansie, if this is an example of the skills of US psyops then I fear for US psyops. If this is your standard then I assume the Taliban picks up your leaflets just as much for the comedy value as the toilet paper value.
Apparently Tina Fey was good at convincing people that she is quoting Sarah Palin.  In which way is Sarah Palin a "bible basher"?

Hansmeister

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 14, 2010, 11:35:13 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 14, 2010, 10:33:58 AM
Alot of the quotes are verbatim.

This one in particular.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npUMUASwaec
How is this any different than interviews by any other politician?

Some brilliant Obama quotes:

"One such translator was an American of Haitian descent, representative of the extraordinary work that our men and women in uniform do all around the world -- Navy Corpse-Man Christian Brossard." –mispronouncing "Corpsman" (the "ps" is silent) during a speech at the National Prayer Breakfast, Washington, D.C., Feb. 5, 2010 (The Corpsman's name is also Christopher, not Christian)

"The Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries." --Tampa, Fla., Jan. 28, 2010

"UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It's the Post Office that's always having problems." –attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare, while simultaneously undercutting his own argument, Portsmouth, N.H., Aug. 11, 2009

"The Cambridge police acted stupidly." —commenting on a white police officer's arrest of black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. at his home in Cambridge, Mass., at a news conference, July 22, 2009

"The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system." --in remarks after a health care roundtable with physicians, nurses and health care providers, Washington, D.C., July 20, 2009

"It was also interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There's a lot of -- I don't know what the term is in Austrian, wheeling and dealing." --confusing German for "Austrian," a language which does not exist, Strasbourg, France, April 6, 2009

"No, no. I have been practicing...I bowled a 129. It's like -- it was like Special Olympics, or something." --making an off-hand joke during an appearance on "The Tonight Show", March 19, 2009 (Obama later called the head of the Special Olympics to apologize)

"I didn't want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any seances." --after saying he had spoken with all the living presidents as he prepared to take office, Washington, D.C., Nov. 7, 2008 (Obama later called Nancy Reagan to apologize)

"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." -- defending his tax plan to Joe the Plumber, who argued that Obama's policy hurts small-business owners like himself, Toledo, Ohio, Oct. 12, 2008

"What I was suggesting -- you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith..." --in an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos, who jumped in to correct Obama by saying "your Christian faith," which Obama quickly clarified (Watch video clip)

"I'm here with the Girardo family here in St. Louis." --speaking via satellite to the Democratic National Convention, while in Kansas City, Missouri, Aug. 25, 2008

"Let me introduce to you the next President -- the next Vice President of the United States of America, Joe Biden." --slipping up while introducing Joe Biden at their first joint campaign rally, Springfield, Illinois, Aug. 23, 2008

"Just this past week, we passed out of the out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee -- which is my committee -- a bill to call for divestment from Iran as way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don't obtain a nuclear weapon." --referring to a committee he is not on, Sderot, Israel, July 23, 2008

"Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel's. It will be a strong friend of Israel's under a McCain...administration. It will be a strong friend of Israel's under an Obama administration. So that policy is not going to change." --Amman, Jordan, July 22, 2008

"How's it going, Sunshine?" --campaigning in Sunrise, Florida

"On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is particularly strong."

"Hold on one second, sweetie, we're going to do -- we'll do a press avail." --to a female reporter for ABC's Detroit affiliate who asked about his plan to help American autoworkers (Watch video clip)

"I've now been in 57 states -- I think one left to go." --at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon (Watch video clip)

"Why can't I just eat my waffle?" --after being asked a foreign policy question by a reporter while visiting a diner in Pennsylvania

"It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." --explaining his troubles winning over some working-class voters

"The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know, you know, there's a reaction that's been bred in our experiences that don't go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that's just the nature of race in our society."

"Come on! I just answered, like, eight questions." --exasperated by reporters after a news conference

"You're likeable enough, Hillary." --during a Democratic debate

"In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died -- an entire town destroyed." --on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people

DontSayBanana

Hans, have you considered the "How's it going, Sunshine?" might have been a reference to the Sunshine State, and not to Sunrise, FL?
Experience bij!