Gunman kills 13 at upstate NY immigration center

Started by Syt, April 04, 2009, 12:15:51 AM

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Syt

BBC: Gunman kills 13 in New York siege

QuoteA gunman has killed 13 people after taking dozens hostage in the US state of New York.

The suspected gunman was later found dead inside the immigration centre in Binghamton, police officials said.

Nearly 40 people escaped from the building but four were critically injured in the shooting, north-west of New York City, police said.

President Barack Obama, in Europe for a Nato summit, said he was "shocked and saddened" by the "senseless violence".

Mr Obama said his administration was "actively monitoring the situation" and that Vice-President Joe Biden was in touch with officials in Binghamton.

The town's police chief, Joseph Zikuski, told a news conference that 14 people had been found dead in the American Civic Association (ACA) buildings.

The man believed to have carried out the attack was found dead with an apparently self-inflicted gunshot wound, he said. Ammunition, two more hand guns and a hunting knife were recovered from the scene.

Democratic Congressman Maurice Hinchey told AP the gunman had entered a room where people were sitting exams for US citizenship.

"It was in the middle of a test. He just went in and opened fire," said Mr Hinchey, whose congressional district includes Binghamton.

The BBC's Matthew Price in Binghamton says people in the town are struggling to deal with the horror of what some have described as an "unbelievable" attack.

Wounded

Witnesses reported seeing a man entering the ACA building during the morning. He was described as being of Asian appearance, in his 20s, and wearing a bright green nylon jacket and dark-rimmed glasses.

The gunman, believed to have been a Vietnamese-American, used his car to barricade the building's back door before bursting in the front door, firing his weapon, said officials.

He shot two receptionists, one of whom managed to call the police, before walking down a corridor towards classrooms.

Police were on the scene in minutes - people in nearby apartments, a school and a care home were told to stay in their buildings and some streets were sealed off.

Mr Zikuski said 26 people took refuge in the building's basement after hearing gunshots.

Eyewitnesses described seeing some people fleeing the building.

"About 15 or so employees of the Civic Association came out crying with their hands behind their heads," one witness told Binghamton's WNBF Radio.

"They were escorted by the police and they took them to ambulances and took them away," he said.

Two other people were seen being led away by police in plastic handcuffs during the incident but officials later said they were not suspects.

Police later raided the home of the suspected gunman and removed items including computer hard drives and a rifle bag, reports said.

'Profound outrage'

Local hospitals have said about 30 people are being treated.

A spokeswoman for Our Lady of Lourdes hospital told the BBC several people had been admitted with serious injuries.

The governor of New York state, David Paterson, said it had been "a tragic day for New York".

"This is a horrible situation. There's actually no reason or excuse for this kind of shooting and brutal attack on innocent people right here in New York state," he said.

Mr Paterson told a news conference there was "a profound sense of outrage at this senseless act of violence in which many innocent people were killed, injured and probably traumatised for some time to come".

He said many of the victims were not from the US and police were in the process of contacting their families living abroad.

New York State would offer any assistance to the victims, who had "wanted to be part of the American dream and so tragically may have had that hope thwarted today", said Mr Paterson.

"There still is an American dream and all of us who are Americans will try to heal this very, very deep wound in the city of Binghamton."

Our correspondent said police were picking through evidence in the building trying to determine what had happened and why.

Bob Joseph of WNBF Radio told the BBC the town had never experienced an incident on such a scale before.

The ACA says on its website that it assists immigrants and refugees with personal and immigration counselling.

Why would an immigrant go and shoot down other immigrants taking the citizenship test?
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Why would an immigrant go and shoot down other immigrants taking the citizenship test?
Why does anyone shoot 13 random civilians? Because they're fucking crazy.
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Iormlund

Quote from: Syt on April 04, 2009, 12:15:51 AM
Why would an immigrant go and shoot down other immigrants taking the citizenship test?
It is obvious, really. Even I know that the main character in GTA IV is an immigrant and frequently shoots other immigrants.

Crazy_Ivan80

apparently some Paki-Taliban dude has claimed responsability for the attack.

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Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: katmai on April 04, 2009, 03:04:53 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on April 04, 2009, 02:55:56 PM
apparently some Paki-Taliban dude has claimed responsability for the attack.
:huh:

is what I heard on the news.
Pretty bizarre indeed

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on April 04, 2009, 03:56:27 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 04, 2009, 03:04:53 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on April 04, 2009, 02:55:56 PM
apparently some Paki-Taliban dude has claimed responsability for the attack.
:huh:

is what I heard on the news.
Pretty bizarre indeed
Just because some wackjob claims involvement doesn't make it true.
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DGuller

I wonder what the human toll of the recession would be.  It seems like not a day goes by without news of fresh mass killing.  Good thing we also have let the assault rifle ban expire, so that someone who's gone off the deep end can kill 3-4 cops instead of just one or two.

Siege

Quote from: DGuller on April 05, 2009, 01:56:40 AM
I wonder what the human toll of the recession would be.  It seems like not a day goes by without news of fresh mass killing.  Good thing we also have let the assault rifle ban expire, so that someone who's gone off the deep end can kill 3-4 cops instead of just one or two.

Guns don't kill people. Muslims do.



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Quote from: Siege on April 05, 2009, 02:01:40 AM
Quote from: DGuller on April 05, 2009, 01:56:40 AM
I wonder what the human toll of the recession would be.  It seems like not a day goes by without news of fresh mass killing.  Good thing we also have let the assault rifle ban expire, so that someone who's gone off the deep end can kill 3-4 cops instead of just one or two.

Guns don't kill people. Muslims do.

We should purge Muslims from the country. Make everyone pass a test where they have to eat bacon or get declared a Muslim.
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Caliga

Quote from: DGuller on April 05, 2009, 01:56:40 AM
I wonder what the human toll of the recession would be.  It seems like not a day goes by without news of fresh mass killing.  Good thing we also have let the assault rifle ban expire, so that someone who's gone off the deep end can kill 3-4 cops instead of just one or two.

Interestingly, none of these recent mass killings have involved assault rifles.

"OMG let's leave assault rifles legal and ban semiautomatic handguns!"
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Ed Anger

Quote from: DGuller on April 05, 2009, 01:56:40 AM
I wonder what the human toll of the recession would be.  It seems like not a day goes by without news of fresh mass killing.  Good thing we also have let the assault rifle ban expire, so that someone who's gone off the deep end can kill 3-4 cops instead of just one or two.

It only banned 19 types, and with some cosmetic re-jiggering, could be entered in the market.

The ban was mostly a joke. Remove the bayonet mount and folding stock? NEW RIFLE!
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Razgovory

Quote from: Caliga on April 05, 2009, 07:06:10 AM
Quote from: DGuller on April 05, 2009, 01:56:40 AM
I wonder what the human toll of the recession would be.  It seems like not a day goes by without news of fresh mass killing.  Good thing we also have let the assault rifle ban expire, so that someone who's gone off the deep end can kill 3-4 cops instead of just one or two.

Interestingly, none of these recent mass killings have involved assault rifles.

"OMG let's leave assault rifles legal and ban semiautomatic handguns!"

Interestingly the one yesterday did.  http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/04/04/pittsburgh.officers.shot/index.html
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

jimmy olsen

Quote from: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on April 05, 2009, 05:04:18 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 05, 2009, 02:01:40 AM
Quote from: DGuller on April 05, 2009, 01:56:40 AM
I wonder what the human toll of the recession would be.  It seems like not a day goes by without news of fresh mass killing.  Good thing we also have let the assault rifle ban expire, so that someone who's gone off the deep end can kill 3-4 cops instead of just one or two.

Guns don't kill people. Muslims do.

We should purge Muslims from the country. Make everyone pass a test where they have to eat bacon or get declared a Muslim.
So all devout Jews would be labeled Muslim and deported?
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Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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