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Apple to upset the tech cart on Wednesday

Started by CountDeMoney, January 26, 2010, 06:22:38 AM

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frunk

Oracle now, they just updated the Java api pages with Oracle logos.

Berkut

I hope they don't tell me I cannot write anymore Java software, since they control it and all.
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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derspiess

Quote from: Barrister on January 28, 2010, 02:50:28 PM
But Flash isn't an open system.  It's controlled by Adobe.   :huh:

:frusty:  What I am trying to say is that Apple does not support Flash in the iPhone OS because Flash would open the OS's closed architecture too much for Apple's tastes, and would make many of the apps redundant.

To put it a slightly different way, Apple wants to control your experience as much as possible, and Flash would hinder their ability to do so.  And if that's what they want, fine.  I just wish they would be honest about it.
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DontSayBanana

Apple's a closed OS in that they want all their native code to stay in-house.  They could theoretically add in their own version of Flash support, but it'd be guaranteed to be so buggy as to be useless unless they actually allowed Adobe's devs access to the code of the iPhone OS.

Also, Spiess is right; Apple doesn't want any part of the "iPhone/iPad experience" to be free unless they say so.  With the ability to author freeware clones of iPhone apps in Flash, it's not surprising that they'd refuse to support it.
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Iormlund

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Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on January 28, 2010, 01:00:36 PM
It's a 1st gen hardware. So of course it's kind of broken.

Not really. There are a surprising amount of tablet devices out there, slate or butterfly, for field, military or industrial conditions. Touch screens have been the standard for years in the industry so there's a lot of experience building those.
As for more normal markets, there are things like the Asus Eee PC T91s which we use to set up solar trackers (very cheap compared to a rugged slate, battery lasts quite a while, weights less than a Kg and you don't have to take your gloves off which is great during winter). The only thing that keeps me from buying one is that Youtube is a bit laggy on the Atom CPU. Well that and that I can use the ones at work anytime (got one beside my bed right now). :P
Oh, and it's cheaper than the iPad, too, despite having USBs, multitasking and all sort of apparently useless stuff. :lol:

Caliga

So, in summary, it sounds like Steve Jobs did indeed take a shit in a box and the Appletards still want to buy it. :)
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Josephus

Did somebody post the link to the obligatory Hitler Youtube video ranting about IPad? Not as funny as some of the other stuff they've done with that Hitler vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQnT0zp8Ya4
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DontSayBanana

Jeez.  I had an Averatec hybrid tablet/laptop in 2005 that only set me back $800.  I'd still have it if I hadn't needed to sell it because I needed money.
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BuddhaRhubarb

finally went to apple and checked out features and specs. it's obviously meant for old people or luddites just learning about these new fangled computer thingies, much like the iphone imo(or blackberry or any of those "smart" phones, or as I call them, portable brains. Many people have decided to wear their brains on the outside. smartphone=dumb person.

and by dumb I don't mean stupid, per se, just unengaged from real life. have a human interaction: it's old school, and occasionally refreshing.

my review of what the ipad seems to be = :mellow: I don't need or want one. Same for an iphone, or crackberry or whatever.
:p

Berkut

So in your view people who use and enjoy new technology are the luddites?

What a curious perspective.
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derspiess

Quote from: Berkut on January 29, 2010, 01:18:28 PM
So in your view people who use and enjoy new technology are the luddites?

What a curious perspective.

Indeed.  I learned something about myself today.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Malthus

I dunno. I feel like I'm more or less the "old person and luddite" target market - and I'm not totally convinced.

What I want is something on which I can read books, watch movies and do internet stuff on, with no fuss and no muss; light and with long battery life.   

Like the Ipod, which was great for no fuss and no muss music.

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BuddhaRhubarb

Quote from: Berkut on January 29, 2010, 01:18:28 PM
So in your view people who use and enjoy new technology are the luddites?

What a curious perspective.

Nope. you read it wrong. It's not new tech. It's dumbed down lego block tech.

Buying a mac book pro and running actual software is enjoying new technology. Buy some half broken e-book reader from apple for a few bucks (you get what you pay for) is not enjoying new tech. My use of the term luddite was incorrect in a grumbleresque "the term must be used in the exact definition of the word kind of way". I was crassly lumping together old people who only know how to get email, and surf facebook with the aforementioned luddites. I am aware that by even using a computer you aren't much of a luddite, but people will always disappoint you if you hang on to stereotypes..

sorry for the confusion.
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Malthus

Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on January 29, 2010, 01:26:14 PM

Nope. you read it wrong. It's not new tech. It's dumbed down lego block tech.

Buying a mac book pro and running actual software is enjoying new technology. Buy some half broken e-book reader from apple for a few bucks (you get what you pay for) is not enjoying new tech. My use of the term luddite was incorrect in a grumbleresque "the term must be used in the exact definition of the word kind of way". I was crassly lumping together old people who only know how to get email, and surf facebook with the aforementioned luddites. I am aware that by even using a computer you aren't much of a luddite, but people will always disappoint you if you hang on to stereotypes..

sorry for the confusion.

I don't see anything wrong with wanting certain results rather than being fascinated by the tech. I just want to play games, surf the net and watch movies - I don't want to have to become an expert in how to do that.

I am not, however, yet convinced that this new product is better than others for this. 
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius