Star Wars vs Star Trek - the ultimate nerd battle

[Zanza]

The two last Star Wars (i.e. episodes 2 + 3) films aren't worse than Star Trek 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 or 10. 

[Neil]

The two last Star Wars (i.e. episodes 2 + 3) films aren't worse than Star Trek 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 or 10.

Star Trek 1 and 3 were good.  Stop being so gay.

[Tamas]

Looking good, kat.

[Caliga]

x2 

[Ed Anger]

I got laid.

[Savonarola]

Are you fucking serious?  Frank Herbert almost sued Lucas.  What do you think Tatooine is, anyway? Tusken Raiders?  They even have a Sand Worm carcass in the background.

Tatooine is the wild west in space: Mos Eisely Space Port is a fronteir town; Han Solo is the outlaw who turns into a hero, like the Ringo Kid; Tusken Raiders are the warlike Indian tribes, like the Comanche; and Jawa are the more peaceful trading tribes.  Lucas stole deep and wide when he made Star Wars, one of his influences was John Ford's "The Searchers."  The misfortunes that befall Luke early in the film (death of the guardians while he is away), his reaction when he pieces it together (recklessly racing home) and his ultimate decision to follow the older teacher mirror those of Martin Pawley.

[The Brain]

W was influenced by Dune when he invaded Iraq.

[Neil]

Dune didn't even come out until 1984 anyways, so how could Star Wars be influenced by it?

[Savonarola]

Dune didn't even come out until 1984 anyways, so how could Star Wars be influenced by it?

Sting's acting transcends space and time.

[The Brain]

Max von Sydow rocks.

[Caliga]

Dune didn't even come out until 1984 anyways, so how could Star Wars be influenced by it?

Ironically, I remember when I first watched the Dune movie, I thought "This is a ripoff of Star Wars, only shittier."

[Caliga]

Max von Sydow rocks.

I like to play with things a while, BEFORE ANNIHILATION.

[grumbler]

And lastly, Star Wars has fans who are not complete and total nerds. The hardcore Trekkies however are the biggest nerds in the universe. Learning Klingon and admiring the communist dictatorship which is the Federation? Fuck that.

This may be true in the Third World, but in the First World we have SW LARPers, who are far, far nerdier than the ST fans who think learning Klingon is a hoot.

I don't know any adults who would admit that they thought the kiddie films were better than the ST stuff.  Even if the teddy bears didn't drive them away, Jar-Jar would have.

I know next to nothing about any SW stuff other than the first four movies.  The books, when they first started coming out, looked like craptastic pulp, and the fourth movie was so bad I have never bothered with the fifth or sixth one.

[DontSayBanana]

The worst Trek series is Voyager, because it totally sissified the Borg.

It's the worst, but not even for that.  The series tried to pick up some slack in seasons 6 and 7 (4 and 5 were complete and utter shite, admittedly), but then they had to go out with that ending lifted straight from Fanfic.net.  I gotta admit, though, ENT didn't mesh with my schedule, and I complained about that right up until I found out about an episode involving time travel and the Defiant.  ENT's problem was that they tried to capitalize on the resurgence of Dr. Who, and failed miserably.

[frunk]

It's the worst, but not even for that.  The series tried to pick up some slack in seasons 6 and 7 (4 and 5 were complete and utter shite, admittedly), but then they had to go out with that ending lifted straight from Fanfic.net.  I gotta admit, though, ENT didn't mesh with my schedule, and I complained about that right up until I found out about an episode involving time travel and the Defiant.  ENT's problem was that they tried to capitalize on the resurgence of Dr. Who, and failed miserably.

The last episode of Enterprise aired May 2005.  The first episode of the new Dr. Who aired on BBC in March 2005.  I don't think there was that much influence of Dr. Who on Enterprise, at least not from the latest outing.