Episcopal Priest wants to be both a Christian and a Muslim at the same time

[The Minsky Moment]

Though here's something I don't know - an explaination as to why there are not new prophets in Judaism.

Prophecy as such ceased after Ezra's refoundation.  There was no longer a need for the office of Prophet to deliver the message of God directly because everything one needed to know about God's will could be discerned from the existing scripture and the law.  The prophets were replaced by scribes and sages.

[crazy canuck]

Nope.  Islam has proclaimed Christianity for being polytheistic for that very reason.  Changing that view would go to the most important teaching of Islam that there is only one God.

So you bend around and say that God isn't really more than one person although he can manifest himself in the body of a person called Christ (after all, he is all powerful or something). You can also see that as being more than one person, whilst one God.

Not sure what you are saying.  You are only describing the mental gymnatastics Christians go through in explaining the Trinity.  What you are describing would be contrary to Islamic understanding of God who by Islams Definition cannot manifest himself in the body of another.

[garbon]

Not sure what you are saying.  You are only describing the mental gymnatastics Christians go through in explaining the Trinity.  What you are describing would be contrary to Islamic understanding of God who by Islams Definition cannot manifest himself in the body of another.

What you said to me was that there can't be two gods in Islam. Those mental gymnastics get around that. So there is specific language that God can't manifest himself in human form? 

[crazy canuck]

Not sure what you are saying.  You are only describing the mental gymnatastics Christians go through in explaining the Trinity.  What you are describing would be contrary to Islamic understanding of God who by Islams Definition cannot manifest himself in the body of another.

What you said to me was that there can't be two gods in Islam. Those mental gymnastics get around that. So there is specific language that God can't manifest himself in human form?

There is only one God and Mohommad is his profit.  The clearest most straightforward creed of all the religions of the Book.  Some would also say the most simplistic but that is another debate.

It leaves no room for the machinations the Christians bedeviled themselves with over the centuries regarding the true nature of Christ and God.

There are so many problems with what you suggest that it would take too long to eductate you here.  I suggest you read up on the subject if you are really interested.

[garbon]

There is only one God and Mohommad is his profit.

Leaving out the tee-hee about profit, how does that contradict anything? Do Christians think that Christ and God equal two gods?

[The Minsky Moment]

What you said to me was that there can't be two gods in Islam. Those mental gymnastics get around that. So there is specific language that God can't manifest himself in human form?

They don't get around it because the Trinity conceives of three persons sharing a single essence.  That violates the indivisibility of God under the Islamic tawhid - God is indivisible and can't manifest in multiple "persons" even if those persons share the same essence or substance.  Islam also sees God as transcendent and incorporeal - therefore there is no way that a individual human being could somehow be of God's substance or essence.

[Barrister]

There is only one God and Mohommad is his profit.

Leaving out the tee-hee about profit, how does that contradict anything? Do Christians think that Christ and God equal two gods?

No, but Muslims think that.

[crazy canuck]

No, but Muslims think that.

I dont think so.  They reject the notion that God could have taken human form as Christianity asserts (or at least which many kinds of Chrisitianity asserts).  It is not that Islam mistakes Christianity's meaning, it is that Islam rejects it.

[crazy canuck]

Leaving out the tee-hee about profit,

how does that contradict anything? Do Christians think that Christ and God equal two gods?

What JR said.  Its not so much multiple Gods - which Christians would say they do not have.  It is an matter of the nature of God on which the Muslims and Christians could never agree.

[Malthus]

Hinduism in some forms at least has a similar notion to Christians - all of the "gods" share a single essence (Brahman), which merely manifests itself as seperate "gods" (and everything else as well).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahman

Thus, Hinduism is also "not polytheistic" in a manner similar to why Christianity is "not polytheistic" - except instead of three manifestations, Hindus have manifestations without count.

[garbon]

They don't get around it because the Trinity conceives of three persons sharing a single essence.  That violates the indivisibility of God under the Islamic tawhid - God is indivisible and can't manifest in multiple "persons" even if those persons share the same essence or substance.  Islam also sees God as transcendent and incorporeal - therefore there is no way that a individual human being could somehow be of God's substance or essence.

Thank you and contrary to claims out there, that didn't take too long.

[crazy canuck]

They don't get around it because the Trinity conceives of three persons sharing a single essence.  That violates the indivisibility of God under the Islamic tawhid - God is indivisible and can't manifest in multiple "persons" even if those persons share the same essence or substance.  Islam also sees God as transcendent and incorporeal - therefore there is no way that a individual human being could somehow be of God's substance or essence.

Thank you and contrary to claims out there, that didn't take too long.

JR has much more patience then I.

[Malthus]

Though here's something I don't know - an explaination as to why there are not new prophets in Judaism.

Prophecy as such ceased after Ezra's refoundation.  There was no longer a need for the office of Prophet to deliver the message of God directly because everything one needed to know about God's will could be discerned from the existing scripture and the law.  The prophets were replaced by scribes and sages.

Where though is this described? I assume somewhere in the Talmud ...

[The Brain]

Ask Madonna, she knows her Jewish shit.

[garbon]

JR has much more patience then I.

Actually, perhaps you should learn that writing, essentially, the same one liner over again isn't an effective way of teaching.