The Duties of Marriage

[Habbaku]

[Admiral Yi]

Weak game.

[Habbaku]

It still has its fans.  The rules are also, like, half a page long.

[Valmy]

They also agreed to fuck each other. My point is that "marriage" is not a promise of celibacy, and yet if one party makes it celibate, the other party is punished for seeking to get out of the contract.

Since celibacy includes not getting married it sure would be weird if it included the promise of celibacy.

[Valmy]

I thought that was called 'spousal abandonment'?

There is definately a double standard involved.  My female friends used to dismiss their cheating with stuff like, 'he became my best friend' or shit.  If their guys cheated on them (in one case they weren't in a relationship, she was just obsessed with him and took his dating for cheating) then they were pigs and scum, etc.

Divorce can financially destroy a guy, so it isn't an easy choice.  In Mass. you could also kiss goodbye any chance of getting custody too. 

Your female friends are assholes.  Get new friends.

[Darth Wagtaros]

I did. 

[Martinus]

I did.

Oh, so all the Pacman pies and "eggnog feasts" were an elaborate scheme to get rid of your female friends? Makes sense. I wondered if there is a purpose to it. 

[grumbler]

Since celibacy includes not getting married it sure would be weird if it included the promise of celibacy.

Since celibacy and marriage are completely unrelated, I don't see how you could think this point valid.  In fact, celibate marriage was once quite popular in some early Christian circles, and as late as the Eighteenth Century (arguably even the Nineteenth) the Shakers were practicing it in substantial numbers.

Now, you may think marriage vows that include celibacy are weird, but that shouldn't be because you think that celibacy, by definition, excludes marriage.

[Razgovory]

Since celibacy includes not getting married it sure would be weird if it included the promise of celibacy.

Since celibacy and marriage are completely unrelated, I don't see how you could think this point valid.  In fact, celibate marriage was once quite popular in some early Christian circles, and as late as the Eighteenth Century (arguably even the Nineteenth) the Shakers were practicing it in substantial numbers.

Now, you may think marriage vows that include celibacy are weird, but that shouldn't be because you think that celibacy, by definition, excludes marriage.

Beat me to it.

[Valmy]

Since celibacy includes not getting married it sure would be weird if it included the promise of celibacy.

Since celibacy and marriage are completely unrelated, I don't see how you could think this point valid.  In fact, celibate marriage was once quite popular in some early Christian circles, and as late as the Eighteenth Century (arguably even the Nineteenth) the Shakers were practicing it in substantial numbers.

Now, you may think marriage vows that include celibacy are weird, but that shouldn't be because you think that celibacy, by definition, excludes marriage.

My understanding is that celibacy is a rejection of all sexual relationships including marriage.  I would find it odd for celibacy to be practiced by Christians along with marriage since the New Testament is entirely clear that those are separate paths: it encourages you to be celibate but if you cannot swing that get married.

[Darth Wagtaros]

I did.

Oh, so all the Pacman pies and "eggnog feasts" were an elaborate scheme to get rid of your female friends? Makes sense. I wondered if there is a purpose to it. 

It's been a years long project my man.

[Caliga]

The Shakers IIRC did in fact require their members to be chaste, even if they were married... so yes, despite that fact married couples were expected to avoid screwing each other.  There were some other 19th century movements like that (for some reason upstate New York attracted fruits like this) plus there were those Oneida people, who were into orgies and having young boys screw old ladies.

[Darth Wagtaros]

I found this amusing article on MSN ( ): http://lifestyle.msn.com/relationships/articledoublex.aspx?cp-documentid=22822846&GT1=32023

If the man cheats, he's a scumbag, but if the woman cheats, it's a-okay!

Let's put this through the de-spinulator.

Woman is unhappy in her marriage and life in general.
Doesn't want to end the marriage.
Doesn't want to live with it.
Gets a mutual friend involved and starts shagging him.
Mutual friend, who is admittedly an asshole anyway, falls in love with her, as she convinced him they are gonna go off to Fantasy Island and be together4evar.
Woman gets husband's attention, ditches the other ass, and lives happily ever after.

Nasty piece of work that.

[DisturbedPervert]

it encourages you to be celibate but if you cannot swing that get married.

That's horrible

[Valmy]

That's horrible

I know.  It makes you wonder why Christians call this message 'Good News'.