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Have you Ever Personally Known a Murderer?

Started by Malthus, December 11, 2009, 03:41:48 PM

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merithyn

Murderer: Rusty Channon - killed a guy with his truck by pinning him to garage door and crushing him. I grew up with him, and in fact, he once had a huge crush on my little sister. I think he was 20 or 21 when he killed the guy. He was paroled a few years ago.

Suicides: My cousin, whom you all know about, committed suicide by cop a couple of years ago. A very dear friend of mine stuck a gun in her mouth and pulled the trigger two weeks before my 15th birthday. I'd stopped her killing herself several times before and talked to a school counselor about getting her help. Apparently, she convinced them she was fine, and they left her alone.

Pedophiles: My sister's boyfriend was convicted of molesting my niece seven years ago. My niece was five. Yes, my sister is still dating him. He got help, after all, so he's fine now. :mellow:

Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Ed Anger

Quote from: merithyn on December 12, 2009, 05:57:21 PM


Pedophiles: My sister's boyfriend was convicted of molesting my niece seven years ago. My niece was five. Yes, my sister is still dating him. He got help, after all, so he's fine now. :mellow:

WHAT THE FUCK
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merithyn

Quote from: Ed Anger on December 12, 2009, 06:45:09 PM
Quote from: merithyn on December 12, 2009, 05:57:21 PM


Pedophiles: My sister's boyfriend was convicted of molesting my niece seven years ago. My niece was five. Yes, my sister is still dating him. He got help, after all, so he's fine now. :mellow:

WHAT THE FUCK

Yeah, kind of our reaction, too.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Ed Anger

Both him and your sister need a good beating. Might knock some sense into them.
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grumbler

Quote from: The Brain on December 12, 2009, 05:54:49 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 12, 2009, 05:51:36 AM
So a person shouldn't report a crime to the police unless he or she has a complete proof sufficient for conviction?
I don't think you're being shrill enough. Please take a shrill pill.
:lmfao:

Fuck you, Brain, if that keyboard doesn't work anymore after I just sprayed water all over it from my nose when reading this post! :ultra:
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Quote from: Martinus on December 12, 2009, 05:18:56 AM
I don't have patience for "gay panic" bullshit. I'm incensed by the fact that while most people, in theory, accept that gay panic defense is bullshit, in practice, they become sympathetic or at least understanding when it is being cited - like, implicitly, Malthus and Tim have done in the way they retold/reacted to the story.

The guy is a cold-blooded murder. He murdered an innocent, unconscious person because he was "disgusted" with being an object of sexual advances from another man. I don't have an ounce of pity for that bastard, yet Timmy finds it "sad" that the guy is still feeling remorse. Well, he shouldn't be feeling remorse - he should be feeling a needle from a lethal injection.

I will continue being "so up in arms" every time I encounter anyone coming from a "Yes, but" (either explicitly or implicitly) position when it comes to a "gay panic" situation.

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Quote from: Martinus on December 12, 2009, 05:23:03 AM
Quote from: katmai on December 12, 2009, 05:21:05 AM
Marcin-If you think that Malthus and Timmay really felt that way from reading their posts, you are a hopeless idiot.

Tell me. If a murderer confessed to you he murdered someone, would you shrug and retold it as an anecdote, or go to the police?

Don't forget that the murder happened 40 years earlier, and the person being told the story is 16 years old.
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Quote from: Martinus on December 12, 2009, 05:23:03 AM
Quote from: katmai on December 12, 2009, 05:21:05 AM
Marcin-If you think that Malthus and Timmay really felt that way from reading their posts, you are a hopeless idiot.

Tell me. If a murderer confessed to you he murdered someone, would you shrug and retold it as an anecdote, or go to the police?

If somebody confesses he murdered somebody during World War II?  I would probably think 'well who didn't?'

Seriously if an old member of your family confessed he killed somebody during WWII you would call the cops and send the dude to prison?
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Quote from: Valmy on December 12, 2009, 08:46:11 PM
Seriously if an old member of your family confessed he killed somebody during WWII you would call the cops and send the dude to prison?

Martinus was raised to do whatever the commisars would do.  :)
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Camerus

I knew a former classmate who killed himself when we were 20.  The ostensible cause was that he received a $500 parking ticket from the police.  The headline in one paper was something like "Man, 20, kills himself after receiving parking ticket."  Kind of sad to have your last tragic deed produce snickers among strangers like that. 

To this day I'm not 100% sure what the actual cause was, although I suspect he may have been a homosexual.  His parents were extremely conservative Asian immigrants.

Martinus

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Quote from: Valmy on December 12, 2009, 08:46:11 PMSeriously if an old member of your family confessed he killed somebody during WWII you would call the cops and send the dude to prison?
You are changing parameters of the question here - when "a guy I barely know" has become an "old member of your family"?

If it was an old member of my family, then I wouldn't probably rat on him or her (but it wouldn't be automatic - the fact that he is a family member would be weighed against the gravity of the crime, remorse, etc.). If it was some more or less stranger dude saying that, say, he murdered a Jew during WWII to get his money, I would probably call the cops.

Martinus

Quote from: merithyn on December 12, 2009, 05:57:21 PM
Murderer: Rusty Channon - killed a guy with his truck by pinning him to garage door and crushing him. I grew up with him, and in fact, he once had a huge crush on my little sister. I think he was 20 or 21 when he killed the guy. He was paroled a few years ago.

Suicides: My cousin, whom you all know about, committed suicide by cop a couple of years ago. A very dear friend of mine stuck a gun in her mouth and pulled the trigger two weeks before my 15th birthday. I'd stopped her killing herself several times before and talked to a school counselor about getting her help. Apparently, she convinced them she was fine, and they left her alone.

Pedophiles: My sister's boyfriend was convicted of molesting my niece seven years ago. My niece was five. Yes, my sister is still dating him. He got help, after all, so he's fine now. :mellow:

Merri, as I said before, your family is fun.  :lol:

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