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Have you Ever Personally Known a Murderer?

Started by Malthus, December 11, 2009, 03:41:48 PM

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katmai

Quote from: The Brain on December 12, 2009, 05:35:02 AM


A fora? I know you're an immigrant but can't you at least try to learn English?

I'd gladly throw you off a ship. :)
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Martinus

Quote from: The Brain on December 12, 2009, 05:35:02 AM
Quote from: katmai on December 12, 2009, 05:31:18 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 12, 2009, 05:23:03 AM
Quote from: katmai on December 12, 2009, 05:21:05 AM
Marcin-If you think that Malthus and Timmay really felt that way from reading their posts, you are a hopeless idiot.

Tell me. If a murderer confessed to you he murdered someone, would you shrug and retold it as an anecdote, or go to the police?

If someone told me they killed someone 40 years ago, probably shrug and retell it 20 years later on an internet fora.

A fora? I know you're an immigrant but can't you at least try to learn English?

Anyway, would a court convict the guy on an unsubstantiated confession (non-rhetorical)? Reasonable doubt is all over the place.

So a person shouldn't report a crime to the police unless he or she has a complete proof sufficient for conviction?

The Brain

Quote from: Martinus on December 12, 2009, 05:51:36 AM
Quote from: The Brain on December 12, 2009, 05:35:02 AM
Quote from: katmai on December 12, 2009, 05:31:18 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 12, 2009, 05:23:03 AM
Quote from: katmai on December 12, 2009, 05:21:05 AM
Marcin-If you think that Malthus and Timmay really felt that way from reading their posts, you are a hopeless idiot.

Tell me. If a murderer confessed to you he murdered someone, would you shrug and retold it as an anecdote, or go to the police?

If someone told me they killed someone 40 years ago, probably shrug and retell it 20 years later on an internet fora.

A fora? I know you're an immigrant but can't you at least try to learn English?

Anyway, would a court convict the guy on an unsubstantiated confession (non-rhetorical)? Reasonable doubt is all over the place.

So a person shouldn't report a crime to the police unless he or she has a complete proof sufficient for conviction?

I don't think you're being shrill enough. Please take a shrill pill.
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Viking

I only know a pistol suicide. But, he was also the only child raping paedophile I know. I'm just annoyed he didn't kill himself earlier and in a more slow and painful manner.
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

syk

Two of the suicides I prevented:
1) Girl, ~20 years old. Lost her job, boyfriend left her, her dog was run over by a car. She just lay down on the street to be run over herself. Someone called an ambulance and she was shipped to the psych ward. Was still busy with the paperwork she caused when I had a bad feeling and checked her room. She was dangling from the ceiling, hung on her pants. She had one leg tied to some water supply thingy and the other around her neck. Quite the movie situation, given her blue face and the "hurr hurr" sounds. Held her up until help was there. Emergency procedure, tube down her throat, O2 and off to intensive care.
She came back 2 weeks later and killed herself first time she could leave the ward unsupervided. Hung herself in the woods.
2) Overweight rocker type man in his 40s. Claimed he was a pedophile, never did anything to anyone  so far though and was dead frightened he would hurt someone with his deviant urges. Obviously he didn't get the help he was hoping for. Found him while he was busy cutting open both his wrists with broken single use razors. Wrong way of course. Must have taken a while as both wounds were deep enough to completely put a small finger in there. Happened on Christmas Eve. Nasty bloodloss, too. Tried to stop the bleeding with towels until help arrived, again the afforementioned emergency team. Shipped him off to emergency care as well. Took a while to clean up the mess. I have no clue what became of him.


CountDeMoney

Quote from: syk on December 12, 2009, 06:39:00 AM
Two of the suicides I prevented:

Tell us about the suicides you didn't prevent.

DGuller

Quote from: syk on December 12, 2009, 06:39:00 AM
Two of the suicides I prevented:
1) Girl, ~20 years old. Lost her job, boyfriend left her, her dog was run over by a car. She just lay down on the street to be run over herself. Someone called an ambulance and she was shipped to the psych ward. Was still busy with the paperwork she caused when I had a bad feeling and checked her room. She was dangling from the ceiling, hung on her pants. She had one leg tied to some water supply thingy and the other around her neck. Quite the movie situation, given her blue face and the "hurr hurr" sounds. Held her up until help was there. Emergency procedure, tube down her throat, O2 and off to intensive care.
She came back 2 weeks later and killed herself first time she could leave the ward unsupervided. Hung herself in the woods.
Was she ever treated for depression?

syk

Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 12, 2009, 01:05:31 PM
Quote from: syk on December 12, 2009, 06:39:00 AM
Two of the suicides I prevented:

Tell us about the suicides you didn't prevent.
Maybe in 30 years I'll tell a 10th grader.

CountDeMoney


DGuller

Quote from: syk on December 12, 2009, 01:16:54 PM
Maybe in 30 years I'll tell a 10th grader.
Save the assisted suicides for them.

syk

Quote from: DGuller on December 12, 2009, 01:09:25 PM
Quote from: syk on December 12, 2009, 06:39:00 AM
Two of the suicides I prevented:
1) Girl, ~20 years old. Lost her job, boyfriend left her, her dog was run over by a car. She just lay down on the street to be run over herself. Someone called an ambulance and she was shipped to the psych ward. Was still busy with the paperwork she caused when I had a bad feeling and checked her room. She was dangling from the ceiling, hung on her pants. She had one leg tied to some water supply thingy and the other around her neck. Quite the movie situation, given her blue face and the "hurr hurr" sounds. Held her up until help was there. Emergency procedure, tube down her throat, O2 and off to intensive care.
She came back 2 weeks later and killed herself first time she could leave the ward unsupervided. Hung herself in the woods.
Was she ever treated for depression?
Afaik only in the time between the attempted suicide and her death. Too short a time for the antidepressants to even kick in.

syk

Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 12, 2009, 01:17:30 PM
Quote from: syk on December 12, 2009, 01:16:54 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 12, 2009, 01:05:31 PM
Quote from: syk on December 12, 2009, 06:39:00 AM
Two of the suicides I prevented:

Tell us about the suicides you didn't prevent.
Maybe in 30 years I'll tell a 10th grader.

Bor-ring.
To tell the truth, since my exams nobody ever died during my shifts but one woman. And she didn't kill herself, she died from a lung tumor the size of a man's fist. Gave up on CPR after 45 mins. Was a sunny day and she died with a smile on her face.

Capetan Mihali

I knew a registered sex offender as a friend of a friend, talked to him at a few parties.  He, unsuprisingly, didn't bring it up, and I only realized it months later when I searched one of those websites out of curiosity.

Oh and I guess I had another friend-of-friends sex offender acquaintance in college who was busted with a child porn cache.

Only one suicide, thank god, a distant acquaintance, but I did see him staggering drunk at a party the night before he OD'd on pills.
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Neil

Quote from: Martinus on December 12, 2009, 04:51:47 AM
Or do you think that murdering a gay guy because he hit on you is alright and you felt sorry for the murderer?
This.
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