Have you Ever Personally Known a Murderer?

[Malthus]

I know a dozen or so.  The most interesting of whom was this guy.  Went into the woods, and killed 2 campers with an AK-47. 

Any particular reason, or were campers just in season?

[Slargos]

I know a dozen or so.  The most interesting of whom was this guy.  Went into the woods, and killed 2 campers with an AK-47. 

Any particular reason, or were campers just in season?

Were the "campers" actually gypsies, and had previously stolen his dingo?

If so, buy him a beer.

[Neil]

There is no minimum sentencing for most crimes, there is a bill to be voted in 2010 that if it pass will put a minimum sentence for sex offenses (raping of adults and kids).  The Bloc Québécois is of course against this, but all other parties are in favour.

I can't imagine why anyone would be in favour of such a thing.

[viper37]

I can't imagine why anyone would be in favour of such a thing.

You are being sarcastic or you are actually defending the Bloc's position?

[sbr]

Minimum sentences are a cheap political trick to try and show you are Tough on Crime ^TM.  Let the judges determine criminals' sentences, not legislators.

[The Brain]

Let the judges determine criminals' sentences, not legislators.

Yay, let's have the Swedish sucking machine judge and his equivalents making shit up as they go along.

[sbr]

Let the judges determine criminals' sentences, not legislators.

Yay, let's have the Swedish sucking machine judge and his equivalents making shit up as they go along.

That sounds like  a problem in the way judges get put onto the bench in Sweden.  I would rather have someone who has devoted his career to the law to determine sentencing than someone who has devoted his career to getting re-elected.

[The Brain]

Let the judges determine criminals' sentences, not legislators.

Yay, let's have the Swedish sucking machine judge and his equivalents making shit up as they go along.

That sounds like  a problem in the way judges get put onto the bench in Sweden.  I would rather have someone who has devoted his career to the law to determine sentencing than someone who has devoted his career to getting re-elected.

The Swedish part refers to the sucking machine, not the judge.

[sbr]

Let the judges determine criminals' sentences, not legislators.

Yay, let's have the Swedish sucking machine judge and his equivalents making shit up as they go along.

That sounds like  a problem in the way judges get put onto the bench in Sweden.  I would rather have someone who has devoted his career to the law to determine sentencing than someone who has devoted his career to getting re-elected.

The Swedish part refers to the sucking machine, not the judge.

I don't know what a sucking machine is, of any nationality. 

[Siege]

I have never known anybody that have committed murder.

[Siege]

Canada is weak in dealing with criminals.

[viper37]

Minimum sentences are a cheap political trick to try and show you are Tough on Crime ^TM.  Let the judges determine criminals' sentences, not legislators.

that would work nice if the judges were giving pedophiles more than 3 years in jail for raping a child.  Or if they weren't considering the anal sex like a mitigating factor given the preservation of virginity on the child.

[Maximus]

I don't know what a sucking machine is, of any nationality. 

A vacuum cleaner.

[sbr]

Minimum sentences are a cheap political trick to try and show you are Tough on Crime ^TM.  Let the judges determine criminals' sentences, not legislators.

that would work nice if the judges were giving pedophiles more than 3 years in jail for raping a child.  Or if they weren't considering the anal sex like a mitigating factor given the preservation of virginity on the child.

Then you need new judges or new laws, that don't involve minimum sentences.  When you set minimum sentences you end up with a 17 year old boy spending 5 years in prison for having consensual sex with his 16 year old girlfriend.   My problem is that the minimum sentences don't give the judge ANY leeway in sentencing, they are the experts in deciding the law, the legislators are the "experts" (used very loosely) in writing the laws.

[sbr]

I don't know what a sucking machine is, of any nationality. 

A vacuum cleaner.

Oh. 

I guess I don't know how vacuum cleaners relate to the discussion; must be a Euro thing.