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Obama at the G20: Report Card

Started by Berkut, April 09, 2009, 10:15:22 AM

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Obamas grade at the G20 and related trip

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Jaron would be an improvement.

Josquius

C. Nothing great, nothing bad, but a pass.
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Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: dps on April 09, 2009, 10:20:50 PM
The Euros love him.  That's a bad sign.  On the other hand, I can't see that he screwed up anything substantial.  C.

After the nonsense he spouted about turkey being a bridge between the civilised world and the islamic world (Turkey is part of the islamic world, not a bridge) and Turkey becoming a part of the EU he'll be a lot less popular.

Hansmeister

He went around sucking up the euro-love by bashing america and playing to their prejudice.  This helps Obama, but I ail to see how this helps America.  In the end he surrendered on all fronts in order to be liked and came home emptyhanded, only succeeding in convincing the world that he's a weak pushover.

Neil

Quote from: saskganesh on April 09, 2009, 10:30:15 PM
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I think he was your best international representative in the last half century. ride the pony.
Nixon was far better.  Come to think of it, Reagan probably was too.  Look at how well-liked Reagan was around the world.
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derspiess

Quote from: Razgovory on April 09, 2009, 11:36:16 PM
What is with conservatives and that anyway?  It it some remnant of isolationism?

Well, Euros seem to hate anything right of the U.S. political left so you can see why we're not exactly sending love back that way.

Plus, Europe is our competitor in many ways, and would generally like to see the U.S. diminished on the world stage.
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Valmy

Quote from: derspiess on April 10, 2009, 09:53:03 AMPlus, Europe is our competitor in many ways, and would generally like to see the U.S. diminished on the world stage.

Damn if the Euros are our rivals who exactly are our friends?  With that perspective it seems one must regard every single foreign nation as an enemy or rival.
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Berkut

Conservatives don't like Euroes (in the political sense) simply because Euroland is very socially and economically liberal.

It isn't that complicated. They don't like them for the same reason the hard left socialist types like DG and Raz don't like conservatives.
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Queequeg

Quote from: vinraith on April 09, 2009, 12:44:37 PM
Better than adequate but hardly outstanding, a B seems fair.
Agree, though I wish there was a B+/A- option.
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derspiess

Quote from: Valmy on April 10, 2009, 09:55:45 AM
Damn if the Euros are our rivals who exactly are our friends?  With that perspective it seems one must regard every single foreign nation as an enemy or rival.

Now you're gettin' it, boy-o :)
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derspiess

Quote from: Berkut on April 10, 2009, 10:01:01 AM
Conservatives don't like Euroes (in the political sense) simply because Euroland is very socially and economically liberal.

I don't think that's quite it.  There may be a certain low level of disdain on those grounds, but that's not *the* reason.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall