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Started by Berkut, April 09, 2009, 10:15:22 AM

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Obamas grade at the G20 and related trip

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garbon

#15
April 09, 2009, 11:33:37 AM
Yeah, because people were exercising such restraint in their criticism of Bush...
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Valmy

#16
April 09, 2009, 11:36:23 AM
Quote from: garbon on April 09, 2009, 11:33:37 AM
Yeah, because people were exercising such restraint in their criticism of Bush...

Well that was different.  Bush equaled Hitler.
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Grallon

#17
April 09, 2009, 11:42:58 AM
Quote from: garbon on April 09, 2009, 11:33:37 AM
Yeah, because people were exercising such restraint in their criticism of Bush...

Considering Bush's legacy - which was apparent in 2004 when a majority of you people voted him in a second time - it was *quite* warranted.

Obama's 100 days aren't even finished yet...




G.
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garbon

#18
April 09, 2009, 11:45:28 AM
Quote from: Grallon on April 09, 2009, 11:42:58 AM
Considering Bush's legacy - which was apparent in 2004 when a majority of you people voted him in a second time - it was *quite* warranted.

Obama's 100 days aren't even finished yet...

G.

:lol:

Always stay so objective, boo. :hug:
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Sheilbh

#19
April 09, 2009, 12:13:36 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 09, 2009, 10:49:44 AM
I don't really get the question about the financial crisis being America's fault.
Gordon Brown regularly blames the crisis on America when he's at home.  The British press wanted to embarass him a little :lol:

I think a B.  In terms of style he did very well on the whole trip, not a foot wrong or a cock-up or a gaffe which over about a week and six different countries is very good.

For the G20 alone I think he did well.  He helped broker the deal, but didn't get everything he wanted - though he never was going to.
Let's bomb Russia!

PDH

#20
April 09, 2009, 12:37:48 PM
Who is this Obama person?
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vinraith

#21
April 09, 2009, 12:44:37 PM
Better than adequate but hardly outstanding, a B seems fair.

jimmy olsen

#22
April 09, 2009, 01:59:37 PM
Not awful, not great, gave him a C.
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Scipio

#23
April 09, 2009, 09:33:16 PM
Too much kowtowing to the KGB.  C.
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dps

#24
April 09, 2009, 10:20:50 PM
The Euros love him.  That's a bad sign.  On the other hand, I can't see that he screwed up anything substantial.  C.

Habsburg

#25
April 09, 2009, 10:26:16 PM
Quote from: Grallon on April 09, 2009, 11:31:44 AM
Quote from: Berkut on April 09, 2009, 10:55:35 AM

And besides, what fun is there in the uncritical hero worship of political leaders? We should be critical and questioning.



I don't hero worship him.  It just seem every day there's a new thread about something else he should be criticized about.  That's a little too nose-on-the-ground (or the screen) evaluation for my taste.  The effects of many of the things he's doing (or attempting) won't become apparent for some time; despite everybody expecting instantaneous results and gratification.  One doesn't clean up years of mess overnight...



G.

I agree. 

I'd say he did well from a PR aspect.  :frog:

saskganesh

#26
April 09, 2009, 10:30:15 PM
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I think he was your best international representative in the last half century. ride the pony.
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Razgovory

#27
April 09, 2009, 11:36:16 PM
Quote from: dps on April 09, 2009, 10:20:50 PM
The Euros love him.  That's a bad sign.  On the other hand, I can't see that he screwed up anything substantial.  C.

What is with conservatives and that anyway?  It it some remnant of isolationism?
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citizen k

#28
April 09, 2009, 11:44:48 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 09, 2009, 11:36:16 PM
Quote from: dps on April 09, 2009, 10:20:50 PM
The Euros love him.  That's a bad sign.  On the other hand, I can't see that he screwed up anything substantial.  C.

What is with conservatives and that anyway?  It it some remnant of isolationism?

They(conservatives) look at Europe and see EPIC FAIL.  :rolleyes:



Razgovory

#29
April 10, 2009, 12:07:59 AM
Quote from: citizen k on April 09, 2009, 11:44:48 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 09, 2009, 11:36:16 PM
Quote from: dps on April 09, 2009, 10:20:50 PM
The Euros love him.  That's a bad sign.  On the other hand, I can't see that he screwed up anything substantial.  C.

What is with conservatives and that anyway?  It it some remnant of isolationism?

They(conservatives) look at Europe and see EPIC FAIL.  :rolleyes:

Easy to saying hanging out of your trailer half drunk.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017
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