Girl, 10, refuses to go to bed. Mom calls cops, girl gets tasered.

[derspiess]

If you don't trust teachers, then why do you trust parents? At least teachers are trained for the job.

Believe it or not, most parents do just fine with no training.

[Malthus]

Someone got roughed up in the ass.

I don't think so.  In Ukraine, people would look the other way if you hit someone, but gay sex was a HUGE no-no, especially between a teacher and a student.

Doesn't this open the door for the kid blackmailing the teacher, or getting revenge by claiming sexual assault - whether it happened or not?

[Neil]

The girl is 65 pounds and 4'6"?? Oh for fuck's sake. Slap the little bitch on the ass a few times, drag her kicking and screaming little butt into her room, and close the door. End of discussion.

Stupid mother.... 

That's called child abuse these days, at least in failed societies.

[Neil]

Same goes for schools, I think.

Back in the day, teachers had a whole continuum of "institutionalized violence" at their disposal, from smacking a kid on the head to slapping them on a wrist etc. that could be used depending on the degree of offense. I don't know - maybe kids were not as bad back then (but I doubt it) but it was unthinkable to have cops called to school on a kid unless they committed some really serious crime.

These days teachers are scared shitless of being sued to they call cops at the slightest provocation. The end result is that kids get more violent responses for lesser offenses than before.

When you were a kid the teachers could have the students executed as counter-revolutionary, and vice-versa.

[Fireblade]

lol, Ozark is a shitty little hillbilly town. And the cops there are pigs.

[Neil]

Doesn't this open the door for the kid blackmailing the teacher, or getting revenge by claiming sexual assault - whether it happened or not?

Depends on when it happened.  Once upon a time, the hysteria surrounding sex and kids wasn't quite so well-fed, and so any accusations would simply be disregarded as lies.

[merithyn]

The main reason cops get called to schools is, I think, because the schools are terrified of being sued if they so much as lay a finger on a child. That's why they let the cops deal with it.

At the middle school I used to work at, the only time the police were brought in was when the principal or deans couldn't calm the kid down. Only a handful of times do I recall cuffs being used, and those kids were completely out of control.

[merithyn]

The girl is 65 pounds and 4'6"?? Oh for fuck's sake. Slap the little bitch on the ass a few times, drag her kicking and screaming little butt into her room, and close the door. End of discussion.

Stupid mother.... 

That's called child abuse these days, at least in failed societies.

According to the police around here, it's not abuse if it doesn't leave a mark.

[sbr]

The girl is 65 pounds and 4'6"?? Oh for fuck's sake. Slap the little bitch on the ass a few times, drag her kicking and screaming little butt into her room, and close the door. End of discussion.

Stupid mother.... 

That's called child abuse these days, at least in failed societies.

According to the police around here, it's not abuse if it doesn't leave a mark.

I have heard getting hit with a phonebook doesn't leave bruises. 

[garbon]

If you don't trust teachers, then why do you trust parents? At least teachers are trained for the job.

Teachers are not trained to hit students.

Anyway, I trust parents more as at least the child is their legal responsibility and hopefully they have some sort of emotional bond with it.

[DGuller]

Doesn't this open the door for the kid blackmailing the teacher, or getting revenge by claiming sexual assault - whether it happened or not?

I doubt anyone would believe the student.

[KRonn]

The mom and the cop should have been tasered.....   

[Malthus]

Doesn't this open the door for the kid blackmailing the teacher, or getting revenge by claiming sexual assault - whether it happened or not?

I doubt anyone would believe the student.

In that case, what's to stop the teacher from buggering the student to his heart's content? If no-one is ever likely to believe the student, seems that the danger of getting caught is pretty low.

[DGuller]

In that case, what's to stop the teacher from buggering the student to his heart's content? If no-one is ever likely to believe the student, seems that the danger of getting caught is pretty low.

I don't know, I haven't been involved in it.  My guess is that if that actually happens, there will be more than just the word of one student against the teacher.  I guess this isn't the only situation where it's hard to get caught, but God help you if you get caught.

I do know that in Soviet Union, gay sex was a crime punishable by years in jail, and that was just for consenting adults.  One of my Russian acquaintances recalled going to the cinema as a child, to presumably watch some movie for children, and seeing the news reel of police busting into the apartment of two people having gax sex (there was no editing out of naughty bits, Soviet Union didn't do censorship).  I don't think that the environment where you want to practice your love on children of the same sex.

[Malthus]

In that case, what's to stop the teacher from buggering the student to his heart's content? If no-one is ever likely to believe the student, seems that the danger of getting caught is pretty low.

I don't know, I haven't been involved in it.  My guess is that if that actually happens, there will be more than just the word of one student against the teacher.  I guess this isn't the only situation where it's hard to get caught, but God help you if you get caught.

I do know that in Soviet Union, gay sex was a crime punishable by years in jail, and that was just for consenting adults.  One of my Russian acquaintances recalled going to the cinema as a child, to presumably watch some movie for children, and seeing the news reel of police busting into the apartment of two people having gax sex (there was no editing out of naughty bits, Soviet Union didn't do censorship).  I don't think that the environment where you want to practice your love on children of the same sex.

I dunno; seems the perfect place to do it.

All the risk is in getting caught. The consequences of being caught are pretty horrific here in the West - years in jail, possibility of being murdered in jail, etc. While the consequences in the ex-Soviet world would certainly be worse, its merely a matter of degree, not kind.

OTOH, the chances of getting caught strike me as seriously lower in a system where kids are likely to be disbelieved. In most cases of child sex abuse here in the West, routine disbelief that kids were telling the truth about sex abuse did in the past foster a lot of it - though clearly the pendulum swung too far the other way with that "repressed memory" nonsense.  Without someone taking kids accusations seriously, there is little chance of being caught, unless an adult happens to walk in on the abuse while its being committed.