Dad accused of killing son over sex abuse claim

[merithyn]

No, it didn't mention "actual intercourse" and we don't know what the kid meant, because he is dead (with your seeming blessings).

Not blessing, understanding. There is a difference.

It isn't that hard to judge the dad for cold-blooded murder.  Not for those of us with any sense for the sanctity of life.  The relationship of the girl to the kid isn't really relevant.  Dad would be no more, nor less, liable to the murder charge if it was a cousin or a stranger.  Dad doesn't get to kill people, period.  Why do you think the dad did it?  Because he thought it would restore the "virginity" of the three-year-old?

Sorry, I wasn't clear. By saying the boy's sister, I meant possibly the man's daughter. I think the dad did it because he found the act foul, despicable, and heinous, much like I do. As you said, we don't know what the boy said to his father, but it was obviously something that set the father off into a murderous rage. Given the reaction, I would hazard that it wasn't something mild that was done to the girl.

Understandable, yes.  Acceptable, no.

This was an "honor killing" as far as I can tell.

Care to defend it further?

grumbler, I do not think that it was okay that the father killed the son. However, I do understand what may have pushed him into it. I don't think it was an "honor killing", as you do. I think it was pure, blind rage at a heinous crime his son perpetrated. It is a horrible, disgusting thing what the boy did, and yes, to a degree, I believe that he deserved to die for it. Not in the fashion that it happened, but certainly I believe that it was horrible enough to warrant the death penalty. That Dad took it into his own hands... well, it's sad, but in my opinion, understandable.

[Neil]

Neil, are you suggesting that the 3-year old was able to give meaningful consent?   

Not at all.  I'm just suggesting that it was harmless.

[merithyn]

Not at all.  I'm just suggesting that it was harmless.

Children that age can die from sexual intercourse with an adult due to internal hemorrhaging. Even if they survive, there is usually extensive physical damage. Their bodies are not meant to accommodate an adult penis. I know you're probably joking, but I felt it was important to point this out. That little girl, no matter how "aware" she may or may not be, is not going to come out of this unscathed.

[Jacob]

Victimless.

I hadn't expected you to come out in favour of raping babies.

[Valmy]

I dunno. The boy molested a three-year-old girl. I don't know how I'd react if I heard that one of my boys did that, but I'd probably be arrested, too. 

Nonsense I worked with a few boys who raped three year olds and their parents were never prosecuted for it.

[DGuller]

I dunno. The boy molested a three-year-old girl. I don't know how I'd react if I heard that one of my boys did that, but I'd probably be arrested, too. 

Nonsense I worked with a few boys who raped three year olds and their parents were never prosecuted for it.

What were you guys working on?

[Neil]

Victimless.

I hadn't expected you to come out in favour of raping babies.

Not so much in favour of.  Rather neutral, really.

[Neil]

Not at all.  I'm just suggesting that it was harmless.

Children that age can die from sexual intercourse with an adult due to internal hemorrhaging. Even if they survive, there is usually extensive physical damage. Their bodies are not meant to accommodate an adult penis. I know you're probably joking, but I felt it was important to point this out. That little girl, no matter how "aware" she may or may not be, is not going to come out of this unscathed.

We're not necessarily talking about sexual intercourse here.

[Valmy]

What were you guys working on?

Translating the New Testament into Klingon.

[merithyn]

We're not necessarily talking about sexual intercourse here.

I'm just going to ... let this go now.

[Neil]

We're not necessarily talking about sexual intercourse here.

I'm just going to ... let this go now.

If you like.

[Eddie Teach]

grumbler, I do not think that it was okay that the father killed the son. However, I do understand what may have pushed him into it. I don't think it was an "honor killing", as you do. I think it was pure, blind rage at a heinous crime his son perpetrated.

I don't think so. If it was a random stranger he'd probably let the police handle it. Killing his son had to have been heavily motivated by his own shame.

[merithyn]

I don't think so. If it was a random stranger he'd probably let the police handle it. Killing his son had to have been heavily motivated by his own shame.

Though I have no proof, I don't think the girl was a random stranger. I find it unlikely that the girl's parents would discuss what happened with the boy's parents before filing charges if it's a random stranger. Most likely, the girl is well-known to the family.

[Habbaku]

I'm just going to ... let this go now.

It's Neil.

[Eddie Teach]

I don't think so. If it was a random stranger he'd probably let the police handle it. Killing his son had to have been heavily motivated by his own shame.

Though I have no proof, I don't think the girl was a random stranger. I find it unlikely that the girl's parents would discuss what happened with the boy's parents before filing charges if it's a random stranger. Most likely, the girl is well-known to the family.

I meant if his son was the stranger and he found out about that.