No change soon on `don't ask, don't tell'

[Martinus]

I admit that the only Asians I have ever spoken to on a non-professional basis are Philip V, Admiral Yi and Mono. Both Philip V and Admiral Yi have made an argument that we should not give equal rights to gays not because it is immoral or whatever but because "it would cost money" - an argument most Western people would find deeply unethical. Mono is, well, Mono.

Are there any Asians out there who are not disgusting pennypinchers?

Hey, I'm on your side in this argument 

Well ok sorry. You are good people. But you are also obsessed about cash. 

[Neil]

- an argument most Western people would find deeply unethical.

I'm a little offended at you trying to define what 'most Western people' might think.  Remember, you are not Western.

[Eochaid]

I'm a little offended at you trying to define what 'most Western people' might think.  Remember, you are not Western.

Actually, he is.

Even Huntington says so

Kevin

[Valmy]

Are there any Asians out there who are not disgusting pennypinchers?

The female ones who like western guys don't seem to be...at least with the guy's money. 

[Valmy]

My God you've no idea.  The number of times I've had to buy Mr. Muscle shower plug declogger because the girls won't clear their hair out of the way

It can really build up in there.  I have shared a bathroom with a girl almost my entire life.  I never found it particularly less gross than the rare times I was sharing it with a guy.

[Ed Anger]

I'm white and I want Marti's rights taken away. Just Marti's.

[katmai]

I'm white and I want Marti's rights taken away. Just Marti's.

I can support this.

[Martinus]

Here's a Huntington's map of civilizations. Poland and Hungary are in the Western one. 

[Ed Anger]

Next, that fucking soda map is going to show up.

[Faeelin]

What a stupid map. How are Chile and Argentina less Western than Romania?

[The Nickname Who Was Thursday]

Here's a Huntington's map of civilizations. Poland and Hungary are in the Western one. 

Neil is more concerned with race than religion.

[DisturbedPervert]

Are there any Asians out there who are not disgusting pennypinchers?

Uhh...most of them.

[PDH]

What a stupid map. How are Chile and Argentina less Western than Romania?

Pssst, on that map Romania isn't Western...

[Martinus]

It's a culture and race thing though, too. Poland has always been looking to the West and, despite the perception of the Polish-German conflicts throughout history (obviously resulting from WW2 but also from the communist anti-Western propaganda), our Western border has been historically the calmest - we have fought many wars with Russians, Tartars and Turks, and occasionally with Swedes but almost never with Germans. And from the medieval German colonization (which brought to us countless German burghers and peasants to settle), we are probably not less racially German than, say, people inhabiting the modern day Brandenburg.

When we elected foreign Kings, we had Vasas from Sweden, Wettins from Saxony, Valois from France - but we never elected any of the Russian tsars (even though they were running in all the elections).

Historically, we used to have a lot of Orthodox people due to the union with Lithuania and owning parts of Ukraine, but in its current borders at least it's Latin/Western/Catholic culture through and through.

[Eochaid]

What a stupid map. How are Chile and Argentina less Western than Romania?

I suggest you read Huntington's Clash of Civilisations. Or you can just read the Wiki article.

I'm not a big fan of Huntington's later work, but this book has been VERY influential in the past 15 years.

Kevin