Cheerleaders forced to Cheer for Team rather than Jesus

Started by alfred russel, November 11, 2009, 12:06:34 PM

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alfred russel

I don't remember seeing this posted here. Caliga will explain to us why these people aren't crazy.

QuoteBible verses banned from Ga. school football field
By DORIE TURNER
The Warriors of Lakeview-Fort Oglethorpe High took the field on Friday night without any Bible verses written on the cheerleaders' banner.

Instead, the football team ran through a banner that read "This is Big Red Country" before each bent on a knee to pray on the field of Tommy Cash Stadium.

The spirited display comes after the school district banned the banners last week over concerns they were unconstitutional and could provoke a lawsuit, angering many in the deeply religious north Georgia town of Fort Oglethorpe.

"I'm just kind of unnerved about it," said 18-year-old Cassandra Cooksey, a recent graduate who often prayed with her fellow marching band members before football games. "It seems like the majority of people in our community want this and they don't have a problem with it, so I think they should be allowed to have the signs if they want to."

The move has galvanized the community. Hundreds of people attended a rally this week supporting the signs, which included messages such as: "Commit to the Lord, whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Many students attended class Friday wearing shirts with Bible verses and painted their cars with messages that read: "Warriors for Christ."

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During the game, several other messages were visible in the packed stadium. Some people stood with signs that read "You Can't Silence Us" and some young men had Bible verses painted on their chests.

"When you get a whole bunch of teenagers mad, this is what happens. We stand up for what believe in," 16-year-old Shelby Rouse said over the roar of a pre-game pep rally.

Cheerleader Taylor Guinn said she is disappointed about the banning of the signs on the football field and believed there was nothing wrong with displaying them.

"It's done good because it brought a lot of glory to God," the 17-year-old senior said.

Players at the 900-student school began running through the Biblical banners shortly after the Sept. 11 terror attacks, and school Principal Jerry Ransom said he enthusiastically supported it then. But Catoosa County schools Superintendent Denia Reese banned the practice after a parent complained.

Reese said the school board's attorney advised her the signs violated federal law because they were being displayed by the cheerleaders during a school-sponsored event.

"I regret that the cheerleaders cannot display their signs in the football stadium without violating the First Amendment," Reese said in a statement. "I rely on reading the Bible daily, and I would never deny our students the opportunity to express their religious beliefs."

The Anti-Defamation League, a human rights group, sent a letter to Reese commending the ban.

"There are legal ways for students to have religious observation in a school context and there are illegal ways, and we believe Reese is correct that the football game crosses a line," said Bill Nigut, the group's southeast regional director.

Tom Rogeberg, a spokesman of the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, said he can understand banning cheerleaders on the field from displaying religious banners. But he said spectators in the stands must be able to continue expressing their beliefs freely as they did in Fort Oglethorpe on Friday.

"It's been long seen at sporting events with banners like John 3:16 being put up by fans," Rogeberg said.

http://www.salon.com/wires/ap/us/2009/10/02/D9B32Q2O0_us_gridiron_bible_verses/
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Berkut

They aren't crazy because at the end of the day they are doing the right thing.

Pesonal religious expression in the stands? Knock yourself out.
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Viking

I'm confused, who is supposed to be crazy, the ACLU and American United for the Separation or the teenybopper god botherers.
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
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Caliga

Hey AR, could you please let me know where you live so I can dig up articles that cast your area in a negative light and heckle you with them? :)
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alfred russel

Quote from: Berkut on November 11, 2009, 12:42:04 PM
They aren't crazy because at the end of the day they are doing the right thing.

Pesonal religious expression in the stands? Knock yourself out.

They are doing the right thing while kicking and screaming under the threat of a lawsuit, but actually, dressing up with bible verses on your shirt and car before going to a football game is kind of crazy.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
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Viking

Quote from: Caliga on November 11, 2009, 12:47:30 PM
Hey AR, could you please let me know where you live so I can dig up articles that cast your area in a negative light and heckle you with them? :)

I live in ROTW, so knock yourself out.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

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Caliga

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 11, 2009, 12:54:48 PM
Uhh, this article's about Georgia.
I think his intent, given the first line of the OP, was fairly clear... or else he would have asked you to explain why these people aren't crazy (since you live in Georgia).
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alfred russel

Quote from: Caliga on November 11, 2009, 12:47:30 PM
Hey AR, could you please let me know where you live so I can dig up articles that cast your area in a negative light and heckle you with them? :)

It would be too easy.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
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Caliga

Quote from: alfred russel on November 11, 2009, 12:59:04 PM
It would be too easy.
:grr:

Anyhoo, they're not crazy or stupid... just ignorant.  The latter condition can be corrected.  The former two cannot (except maybe with medication in the case of the first). :contract:
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Quote from: Caliga on November 11, 2009, 12:58:20 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 11, 2009, 12:54:48 PM
Uhh, this article's about Georgia.
I think his intent, given the first line of the OP, was fairly clear... or else he would have asked you to explain why these people aren't crazy (since you live in Georgia).

Probably thinks your view is a bit romanticized.
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MadBurgerMaker

Those motherfuckers also have an Indian head logo.   :mad:

DisturbedPervert

Quote from: alfred russel on November 11, 2009, 12:55:32 PMdressing up with bible verses on your shirt and car before going to a football game is kind of crazy.

:mellow:

Seriously, who gives a shit.  Crazy religious people are the ones chopping off heads.

Grey Fox

If we let them, they'll start chopping head soon enough.
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