Societies don't have to be secular to be modern

[Eddie Teach]

Perhaps. I don't think our minds are capable of grasping that issue sufficiently to make comparisons of the sort. Life makes no sense with or without God, it's kind of like you're dividing by zero.

[The Brain]

There's only one poster here with a God complex.

[Pat]

Perhaps. I don't think our minds are capable of grasping that issue sufficiently to make comparisons of the sort.

I feel very capable of making a comparison of that sort.

Everything came from itself = Unlikely

A god came from itself, then created everything = Even more unlikely

Life makes no sense with or without God, it's kind of like you're dividing by zero.

Okay, sure. Some answers we can not have.

[The Brain]

i just came from myself

[Eddie Teach]

 

[CountDeMoney]

There's only one poster here with a God complex.

That's only because grumbler's almost as old as He is.

[FunkMonk]

zing

[Pat]

Btw, did anyone else see the irony of me being accused of the appeal to authority-fallacy just for quoting Freud against religion when religion is the single biggest appeal to authority there is?

[Valmy]

To employ religion simply as a way to satiate our need for spirituality is to shackle the mind and deprive it of a powerful force of self-improvement.

I guess I missed where I claimed it should be used to satiate a need.  In fact I believe it is a powerful tool to rise above needs and fears and gain insight into what it is you really want to do in your life.

[Iormlund]

-A lot of people believe in something.  A lot of those people are even very smart and thoughtful.  While those people might be mistaken on a topic, it doesn't make them idiots or suffering from a delusion.

I beg to differ. It's not an either/or situation. To put forward an example I'm familiar with: I'm a fairly bright person. I have a job that requires significant mental skills and I'm good at it. Yet I behave like an idiot on a regular basis, especially around beautiful women.
You can be deluded or stupid about something even if you are the most intelligent person in the world, just as you can be reasonable or unreasonable at the same time. That's just how our brains work.

[Eddie Teach]

Btw, did anyone else see the irony of me being accused of the appeal to authority-fallacy just for quoting Freud against religion when religion is the single biggest appeal to authority there is?

No. You griping about it when Grumbler is also an atheist is a bit ironic though.

[Duque de Bragança]

Defenestration is a lot less impressive of a word if you've been educated in French.

[grumbler]

Defenestration is a lot less impressive of a word if you've been educated in French.

"Impressive of a word"???  Must be that French education! 

[grumbler]

Btw, did anyone else see the irony of me being accused of the appeal to authority-fallacy just for quoting Freud against religion when religion is the single biggest appeal to authority there is?

Ah, the fallacy of the red herring!    Or is it an Appeal to Pity?

If someone else is fallaciously appealing to authority when you do so, that does not make your fallacious appeal to authority valid.

[Neil]

Defenestration is a lot less impressive of a word if you've been educated in French.

"Impressive of a word"???  Must be that French education! 

Indeed.  My entire knowledge of English grammar comes from reading and listening to people talk.  But I'm still better with English than Grey Fox is with French.