And the Peace Nobel Prize for 2009 goes to...

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The Brain

#225
October 10, 2009, 10:12:09 AM
Quote from: grumbler on October 10, 2009, 10:10:07 AM
Quote from: derspiess on October 09, 2009, 10:57:54 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 09, 2009, 10:19:13 PM
And what exactly has the GOP done in the face of the Russian menace recently?

Razz, if you don't see any difference between the Bush & Obama Administrations & their respective approaches to Russia, I'm not going to bother arguing with you over it.

Btw, do you disagree with *anything* Obama does?
Well, it is true that Obama hasn't looked into Putin's eyes, seen his soul, and pronounced him a man of peace, but other than being less psychically perceptive than Bush he has pursued similar inaction in regard to Russia.

Similar inaction? Obama pushed the reset button and accepted, on behalf of America, full responsibility for any problems in US-Russia relations.
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Razgovory

#226
October 10, 2009, 10:45:01 AM
Quote from: Scipio on October 10, 2009, 08:33:28 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 09, 2009, 10:19:13 PM
And what exactly has the GOP done in the face of the Russian menace recently?
Nothing, unfortunately.  But your disputation is weak-sauced in the extreme.  If Bush jumped off the brookly bridge, should Obama do it to?

Spaz.

In other words, put up or shut up.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Sheilbh

#227
October 10, 2009, 02:50:05 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on October 09, 2009, 09:41:48 AM
It's embarrassing  :Embarrass:

Couldn't they have had the decency to at least wait and see what the man is going to do?
I've no problem with them giving the award at the moment agreement's reached even if it later falls apart - I think the Arafat-Rabin award was fine and the Hume-Trimble one.  Similarly I think it's good to give it to people who aren't succeeding and may never achieve success to show world sympathy - for example the Dalai Lama and Aung San Suu Kyi. 

For those reasons I think Tsvangerai is probably the most deserving. 
Let's bomb Russia!

Razgovory

#228
October 10, 2009, 03:09:29 PM
I'd like to make clear I don't think Obama deserves the award.  He's no Teddy Roosevelt and I doubt he'll ever be one.  Still it's not something I'll get all broken up about.  If he somehow does put an end to Iranian nuclear ambitions and normalizes relations with that country I think he'd deserve it.  Though I doubt that will happen either. 

I don't know if Tsvangerai deserves it either.  It's more like a condemnation of Mugabe.  But he's certainly more deserving then Obama (and I say this as one of Obama's supporters and fanboys).  Shit, deserves it more then Obama.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Brain

#229
October 10, 2009, 03:11:21 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 10, 2009, 03:09:29 PM
Shit, deserves it more then Obama.

QFT
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Eddie Teach

#230
October 10, 2009, 03:18:53 PM
Teddy was great, but he didn't deserve his Nobel either.
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The Brain

#231
October 10, 2009, 03:19:33 PM
Jews are great, BUT they corrupt our race and society.
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Admiral Yi

#232
October 10, 2009, 03:38:54 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 10, 2009, 03:18:53 PM
Teddy was great, but he didn't deserve his Nobel either.
Negotiating a peace treaty that the two parties would have been unable to arrive at on their own seems like the very essence of Peace Prize type activity.

grumbler

#233
October 10, 2009, 03:39:17 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 10, 2009, 03:18:53 PM
Teddy was great, but he didn't deserve his Nobel either.
True.  No one has ever deserved their Nobel prizes.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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Eddie Teach

#234
October 10, 2009, 03:48:13 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 10, 2009, 03:38:54 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 10, 2009, 03:18:53 PM
Teddy was great, but he didn't deserve his Nobel either.
Negotiating a peace treaty that the two parties would have been unable to arrive at on their own seems like the very essence of Peace Prize type activity.

The bio I read suggested he was egging Japan on in the runup to the war.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

derspiess

#235
October 10, 2009, 04:06:13 PM
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Razgovory

#236
October 10, 2009, 04:33:46 PM
I meant to say Shit, my cat deserves it more, but this works to.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

#237
October 10, 2009, 04:34:24 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 10, 2009, 03:38:54 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 10, 2009, 03:18:53 PM
Teddy was great, but he didn't deserve his Nobel either.
Negotiating a peace treaty that the two parties would have been unable to arrive at on their own seems like the very essence of Peace Prize type activity.

Seems that way to me as well.  But what do I know, I voted for Obama. :D
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ed Anger

#238
October 10, 2009, 04:46:09 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 10, 2009, 04:33:46 PM
I meant to say Shit, my cat deserves it more, but this works to.

You named your cat poop too?
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Sheilbh

#239
October 10, 2009, 06:49:27 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 10, 2009, 03:09:29 PM
I don't know if Tsvangerai deserves it either.  It's more like a condemnation of Mugabe.  But he's certainly more deserving then Obama (and I say this as one of Obama's supporters and fanboys).  Shit, deserves it more then Obama.
I don't know.  Tsvangerai's campaigned against Mugabe for a good couple of decades and has now got him into a power-sharing deal.  Zimbabwe has seen some recovery, albeit from an appallingly low base.  I think it'd be good for the world to show we're willing to cooperate with the Prime Minister of Zimbabwe and that we'd oppose Mugabe wittling that position's power away.
Let's bomb Russia!
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