And the Peace Nobel Prize for 2009 goes to...

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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 13, 2009, 04:18:09 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 13, 2009, 12:23:58 PM
It must be nice for the right to be able to bash a President with the same or more vehemence that everyone else used on Bush. Way to take the high road. (oh wait they also had Clinton, never mind)
What are you talking about?

Just read Chris Hitchen's article in Time on Obama's prize, in which I learned that Jimmy Carter wrote to Arab heads of state in the runup to Gulf War I urging them not to participate in the liberation of Kuwait.

:bleeding:

Link?
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 13, 2009, 07:03:47 PM
:bleeding:

Link?
Link.net = google/search&Time magazine&Christopher Hitchen's article on Obama and the Nobel Prize.

Actually I'm thinking now it was Newsweek.

Viking

Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 13, 2009, 07:27:20 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 13, 2009, 07:03:47 PM
:bleeding:

Link?
Link.net = google/search&Time magazine&Christopher Hitchen's article on Obama and the Nobel Prize.

Actually I'm thinking now it was Newsweek.

googling "hitchins obama nobel" will do it.
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

garbon

Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 13, 2009, 12:23:58 PM
It must be nice for the right to be able to bash a President with the same or more vehemence that everyone else used on Bush. Way to take the high road. (oh wait they also had Clinton, never mind)

:hug:

As long as you felt that way about the Dems during Bush.
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BuddhaRhubarb

Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 13, 2009, 04:18:09 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 13, 2009, 12:23:58 PM
It must be nice for the right to be able to bash a President with the same or more vehemence that everyone else used on Bush. Way to take the high road. (oh wait they also had Clinton, never mind)
What are you talking about?

Just read Chris Hitchen's article in Time on Obama's prize, in which I learned that Jimmy Carter wrote to Arab heads of state in the runup to Gulf War I urging them not to participate in the liberation of Kuwait.

um so? what does that have to do with what I'm talking about? I'm talking about how the office of President has been basically a joke ( to the media and most of Languish at least) since and including Clinton. Maybe it always has been a joke and I was naive about it before?
:p

Admiral Yi

Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 13, 2009, 08:40:18 PM
um so? what does that have to do with what I'm talking about? I'm talking about how the office of President has been basically a joke ( to the media and most of Languish at least) since and including Clinton. Maybe it always has been a joke and I was naive about it before?
Nothing.  It was a non sequitor.

How about my question?  What right wing bashing are you talking about?  If you're referring to the people who think Obama winning the Peace Prize is a joke, that's 99% of the country.

BuddhaRhubarb

Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 13, 2009, 08:46:29 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 13, 2009, 08:40:18 PM
um so? what does that have to do with what I'm talking about? I'm talking about how the office of President has been basically a joke ( to the media and most of Languish at least) since and including Clinton. Maybe it always has been a joke and I was naive about it before?
Nothing.  It was a non sequitor.

How about my question?  What right wing bashing are you talking about?  If you're referring to the people who think Obama winning the Peace Prize is a joke, that's 99% of the country.

Never heard of Fox news or any of the freaks bring automatic weapons to Obama rallies Death Panel idiots, Tea baggers (i refuse to call them tea partyers, there aren't enough for a party) etc... I don't think any of them are lefties. but partisan bashing is fair ( if recently  beyond stupid in the manner it's done) , It was done to Bush, Clinton before him... and according to this thread all the way back to Washington.
:p

Caliga

Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 13, 2009, 09:23:44 PM
Tea baggers (i refuse to call them tea partyers, there aren't enough for a party)
If up to 75,000 people at a single gathering in Washington isn't enough for a party, then what is?  :huh:
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Scipio

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 10, 2009, 03:48:13 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 10, 2009, 03:38:54 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 10, 2009, 03:18:53 PM
Teddy was great, but he didn't deserve his Nobel either.
Negotiating a peace treaty that the two parties would have been unable to arrive at on their own seems like the very essence of Peace Prize type activity.

The bio I read suggested he was egging Japan on in the runup to the war.
QFT.  Teddy was very anti-Rooskie.  Some pundits suggested that he both caused the war and ended it.
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BuddhaRhubarb

Quote from: Caliga on October 13, 2009, 09:28:12 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 13, 2009, 09:23:44 PM
Tea baggers (i refuse to call them tea partyers, there aren't enough for a party)
If up to 75,000 people at a single gathering in Washington isn't enough for a party, then what is?  :huh:

It's interesting how the numbers for right wing rallies get inflated and whack job WTO rallies or hundreds of thousands of gays gets no coverage or downplayed as to the size of the rally. Liberal media conspiracy my ass.
:p

Caliga

Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 13, 2009, 09:53:02 PM
It's interesting how the numbers for right wing rallies get inflated and whack job WTO rallies or hundreds of thousands of gays gets no coverage or downplayed as to the size of the rally. Liberal media conspiracy my ass.
Actually the 75,000 figure is like the lowest possible for the whole Taxpayer March on Washington thing.  Alot of conservative commentators claimed figures as high as 1 million, but the Center for Remote Sensing at Boston University likes the lower figure.
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Hansmeister

Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 13, 2009, 08:46:29 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 13, 2009, 08:40:18 PM
um so? what does that have to do with what I'm talking about? I'm talking about how the office of President has been basically a joke ( to the media and most of Languish at least) since and including Clinton. Maybe it always has been a joke and I was naive about it before?
Nothing.  It was a non sequitor.

How about my question?  What right wing bashing are you talking about?  If you're referring to the people who think Obama winning the Peace Prize is a joke, that's 99% of the country.
I thought it was a joke at first too, but then I remembered Obama was able to make peace between a black college professor and a white policeman, so maybe it wasn't wholly underserved.

Razgovory

Quote from: Caliga on October 13, 2009, 10:09:11 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 13, 2009, 09:53:02 PM
It's interesting how the numbers for right wing rallies get inflated and whack job WTO rallies or hundreds of thousands of gays gets no coverage or downplayed as to the size of the rally. Liberal media conspiracy my ass.
Actually the 75,000 figure is like the lowest possible for the whole Taxpayer March on Washington thing.  Alot of conservative commentators claimed figures as high as 1 million, but the Center for Remote Sensing at Boston University likes the lower figure.

That's because conservatives can't count worth shit.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Razgovory on October 14, 2009, 12:03:04 AM
Quote from: Caliga on October 13, 2009, 10:09:11 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 13, 2009, 09:53:02 PM
It's interesting how the numbers for right wing rallies get inflated and whack job WTO rallies or hundreds of thousands of gays gets no coverage or downplayed as to the size of the rally. Liberal media conspiracy my ass.
Actually the 75,000 figure is like the lowest possible for the whole Taxpayer March on Washington thing.  Alot of conservative commentators claimed figures as high as 1 million, but the Center for Remote Sensing at Boston University likes the lower figure.

That's because conservatives can't count worth shit.

Anybody who holds a march inflates the figures.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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garbon

I'm glad that Affirmative Action has reached new, dizzying heights. :)
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