Raz goes on a date Pre-AAR

[Valmy]

One thought I just had about the "tests".  If they are supposed to test for certain kinds of guys wouldn't it actually be more worth my time to be rejected by these tests so as to more quickly find a woman who is actually interested in a guy like me?  I mean getting through the defense system everytime might mean the relationship would be doomed from the start as she would think I am a different sort of guy than I actually am.  I might be counterproductive.

[Drakken]

One thought I just had about the "tests".  If they are supposed to test for certain kinds of guys wouldn't it actually be more worth my time to be rejected by these tests so as to more quickly find a woman who is actually interested in a guy like me?  I mean getting through the defense system everytime might mean the relationship would be doomed from the start as she would think I am a different sort of guy than I actually am.  I might be counterproductive.

Why would you attempt to be deliberately weeded out? If you approach a girl it is because you are attracted to her in the first place. Don't you want to succeed and score?

[Valmy]

Why would you attempt to be deliberately weeded out? If you approach a girl it is because you are attracted to her in the first place. Don't you want to succeed and score?

True true this more has to do with what my own set of priorities were when I was dating.

I was always after a serious relationship, I knew that was always what I really wanted and I never had any doubts about that.

[Barrister]

I look at the seduction community crap as nothing more than advanced game playing strategies, and the realization that you are in fact playing a game, therefore you should go about it in as straighforward manner as possible - within the bounds of the game.

BB, call me crazy, but I am guessing you didn't spend a lot of time trying to pick up women in bars anyway, right?

Not that I did either - but I think the seduction community stuff is pretty fascinating anyway. I've never tried it, and am old enough that I don't think I would want to pick up the kind of women it would work on anyway, but it is still pretty interesting from a strictly competitive standpoint,.

err... I was a horny university student at one point.  I spent some time at least trying to pick up women in bars.  I was almost wholely unsuccessful at it though.     And where I did have any success it was in getting to know a friend of a friend, and not picking up a total stranger.

But when I did discover more success in meeting women was when I used "strategies" both similar to, and the opposite of, the kind of crap Drakken is mentioning.   I found you did need to be much more direct (my failing were at trying to play it way, way too cool), and to be very honest and straight-forward.

[The Minsky Moment]

No question these seduction people are onto something.  They have figured out a way to make millions selling books and videos by packaging pop-psych cliches and old sales technique chestnuts to credulous perpetual adolescents.  Clever boys.

[ulmont]

No question these seduction people are onto something.  They have figured out a way to make millions selling books and videos by packaging pop-psych cliches and old sales technique chestnuts to credulous perpetual adolescents.  Clever boys.

Reminds me of my unwritten book:  "Stockpicking the Texas-Hold'em Way:  Turn Your Poker Skills Into Stock Market Riches."

[Ed Anger]

No question these seduction people are onto something.  They have figured out a way to make millions selling books and videos by packaging pop-psych cliches and old sales technique chestnuts to credulous perpetual adolescents.  Clever boys.

I'm just mad I didn't think of it first.

Sulla's secrets of wooing women.

a) kill their husbands
b) take their stuff

[The Minsky Moment]

I have created my own seduction system based on a five step process: Junction, Attraction, Realization, Obtainment, Next challenge.  It is based on fundamental, carefully tested and honed principles of pyschology, behavioral dynamics, physico-emotional response, pheromonic biochemistry, hermeneutics, and toaster physics.  In order to take advantage of the J.A.R.O.N. system, the initiate will have to commit himself to practice by initiating multiple approaches in different locales for a period of months; however, even the beginner will be able to do so with the confidence that the precepts of the J.A.R.O.N. system are working in his favor.  Essential to the system is learning how to process and overcome negative responses and move on to the next approach.

[Malthus]

I think the Sulla and J.A.R.O.N. systems would both work very well. 

My own favoured approach is the mathematical theory of dating. Simply approach random women and ask "would you like to have sex with me"? Statistically, it would probably get you laid before the night was out. 

[Caliga]

We had a thread on that once.

[swallow]

My only seduction system was buying my future husband chocolate cake.  I think I was projecting 

[Jacob]

I have created my own seduction system based on a five step process: Junction, Attraction, Realization, Obtainment, Next challenge.  It is based on fundamental, carefully tested and honed principles of pyschology, behavioral dynamics, physico-emotional response, pheromonic biochemistry, hermeneutics, and toaster physics.  In order to take advantage of the J.A.R.O.N. system, the initiate will have to commit himself to practice by initiating multiple approaches in different locales for a period of months; however, even the beginner will be able to do so with the confidence that the precepts of the J.A.R.O.N. system are working in his favor.  Essential to the system is learning how to process and overcome negative responses and move on to the next approach.

[Ed Anger]

[garbon]

He's a pretty nice guy, actually--funny, too.  Curiously, I think his techniques must actually work.  He has the worst geek-loser voice in the world.

Not to mention he looks butt ugly in his photos.

[Razgovory]

I'm pissed that this thread is not even about me anymore.