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Started by crazy canuck, September 01, 2009, 04:52:33 PM

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crazy canuck

Coderre doesnt have much profile outside Quebec.  I doubt he could do anything to help Liberal fortunes in the rest of the Country.  Here he will be seen as one of the old style Liberals.

Neil

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 06, 2009, 01:48:08 PM
Coderre doesnt have much profile outside Quebec.  I doubt he could do anything to help Liberal fortunes in the rest of the Country.  Here he will be seen as one of the old style Liberals.
Given the ill-repute of Chretien and Dion, someone from the Quebec machine might not be the best ambassador from the party to Canada.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Neil on October 06, 2009, 01:49:56 PM
Given the ill-repute of Chretien and Dion, someone from the Quebec machine might not be the best ambassador from the party to Canada.

I agree.  They thought they were getting a new face in Iggy but he has fizzled.  Well worse then fizzled.  He may be the only person in the country that could make Harper look hip by comparison.

Grallon

Quote from: viper37 on October 06, 2009, 12:27:17 PM

Denis Coderre.

Please!  The fool burned himself up in that latest drama the Qc Liberals had last week.  I'd bet Martin Cauchon, who's got the support of Chrétien, and who might end up replacing Coderre as Lieutenant in Qc.

Still won't help the Liberals in here though; they simply have nothing worthwhile to offer us.




G.
"Clearly, a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself."

~Jean-François Revel

crazy canuck

Quote from: Grallon on October 06, 2009, 02:08:12 PM
Still won't help the Liberals in here though; they simply have nothing worthwhile to offer us.




G.

Number one reason the Liberals wont go with someone from Quebec.  They cant deliver any seats there.

Grallon

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 06, 2009, 02:11:42 PM


Number one reason the Liberals wont go with someone from Quebec.  They cant deliver any seats there.


If an anglo leader means to finally move away from the ideological Trudeau nostalgia more power to them.



G.
"Clearly, a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself."

~Jean-François Revel

viper37

Quote from: Neil on October 06, 2009, 12:37:19 PM
Denis Coderre.
Well, after Ignatief is gone, it will be Quebec's turn to be Liberal leader again.  I don't think Coderre can do it though.

I was merely joking guys :)
Coderre is well known for being this ambitious guy who has basically no chance of ever reaching the top.
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viper37

Quote from: Grallon on October 06, 2009, 02:08:12 PM
Please!  The fool burned himself up in that latest drama the Qc Liberals had last week.  I'd bet Martin Cauchon, who's got the support of Chrétien, and who might end up replacing Coderre as Lieutenant in Qc.
don't you have any love for poor Denis?

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Still won't help the Liberals in here though; they simply have nothing worthwhile to offer us.
True.
Ignatief could have helped them, but for some reason, he seems to think he'll be elected PM just because he's a Liberal and that should be enough for us.  Bad move.



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I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Grallon

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Quote from: viper37 on October 06, 2009, 05:33:13 PM

don't you have any love for poor Denis?

Au secour!  He's the sleaziest used car salesman one can imagine - a far cry from the charismatic leader!

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Ignatief could have helped them, but for some reason, he seems to think he'll be elected PM just because he's a Liberal and that should be enough for us.  Bad move.

Natural Liberal arrogance - and that's precisely what they need to purge themselves from.  Ignatieff can no doubt return to his friends in Boston - he'll be able to entertain them with his anecdotes on quaint canadian (read provincial) political mores.  Meanwhile we're left with Harper...  What a depressing prospect! 

I keep thinking Duceppe should present Bloc candiates in other provinces.  Now wouldn't that be a coup!?  A separatist party governing Canada?  The ultimate cooptation!




G.
"Clearly, a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself."

~Jean-François Revel

Neil

Quote from: Grallon on October 06, 2009, 08:26:55 PM
I keep thinking Duceppe should present Bloc candiates in other provinces.  Now wouldn't that be a coup!?  A separatist party governing Canada?  The ultimate cooptation!
Except it would be Canada co-opting the Bloc.

If you take away the militant provincialism from Bloc, you're left with the NDP.  That's not a formula for governing anything.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Neil on October 06, 2009, 08:38:04 PM
If you take away the militant provincialism from Bloc, you're left with the NDP.  That's not a formula for governing anything.

Actually, a party of the left with strong support in Quebec would have a significant chance of forming government - especially if the Liberals and Conservatives split the vote.

The problem for the Bloc and the NDP is that the Bloc cannot move out of Quebec and the NDP cannot move into Quebec.

Grey Fox

You guys seem to be ignoring the real person behind all this in the Liberal party & that's Bob Ray.

Dude won't stop untill he's the leader & destroys the party/nation.
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Grallon

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 07, 2009, 10:16:28 AM


The problem for the Bloc and the NDP is that the Bloc cannot move out of Quebec and the NDP cannot move into Quebec.

Cannot? I keep reading and hearing Duceppe as a leader has some popularity outside of Qc... Is there any truth to that?



G.
"Clearly, a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself."

~Jean-François Revel

Malthus

Quote from: Grallon on October 07, 2009, 10:52:34 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 07, 2009, 10:16:28 AM


The problem for the Bloc and the NDP is that the Bloc cannot move out of Quebec and the NDP cannot move into Quebec.

Cannot? I keep reading and hearing Duceppe as a leader has some popularity outside of Qc... Is there any truth to that?



G.

Why on earth would anyone outside Quebec vote for a party expressly designed to promote Quebec's interests?
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

crazy canuck

Quote from: Grallon on October 07, 2009, 10:52:34 AM
Cannot? I keep reading and hearing Duceppe as a leader has some popularity outside of Qc... Is there any truth to that?

G.

Dont confuse likeability with support.  There is no chance a separatist outside of Quebec would get any support.