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Started by viper37, August 27, 2009, 03:33:44 PM

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Viking

Quote from: Caliga on August 28, 2009, 12:42:41 PM
That's what I was getting at. ;)

I'm starting to get the impression we are blind to each other's jokes.
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
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Caliga

Quote from: Viking on August 28, 2009, 01:04:30 PM
I'm starting to get the impression we are blind to each other's jokes.
You are Odin, I am negative-Odin.  Between us we are missing both eyes.  :cool:
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KRonn

You know, one of the things worse about this is that two people were involved in this horror show. The guy and his wife. Usually it's one freak, as even that maniac in Austria hid his captors from his wife's knowledge.

Of course, it must have been a lovely marriage, the two of them sharing holidays, maybe toss some cake and ice cream to the captives in the back yard. Ah yes, domestic bliss....   :mad:

KRonn

Wow, too bad.. this could have been ended a few years earlier. This guy's house was in a crowded residential neighborhood, with houses all around. I'm surprised he got away with this for so long. From the pictures I saw it appears that he had the area fairly well concealed, but it's hard to say. Need more pics of the yard and surroundings.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,544000,00.html

Sheriff: We Should Have Caught Sex Offender Who Kidnapped California Girl Earlier

DEVELOPING: The Contra Costa sheriff in California admitted Friday that his department "missed an opportunity" three years ago to catch registered sex offender Phillip Garrido and rescue the young woman he was allegedly holding captive, Jaycee Lee Dugard.

Sheriff Warren E. Rupf apologized for what he characterized as an "organizational failure" in November 2006, when a neighbor called 911 to report that Garrido was psychotic, there were people living in tents in his backyard and children could be heard there.

"On Nov. 30, 2006, we missed an opportunity for earlier closure to this situation," Rupf said. "A caller to our 911 dispatch offered that there were tents in the neighbor's backyard, that people were living in them and that there were young children. The caller also said that Garrido was psychotic and had a sexual addiction."

Razgovory

Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 28, 2009, 12:20:12 PM

I'm not really interested in the delusional rantings of a wackjob.

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Caliga

Quote from: KRonn on August 28, 2009, 02:44:08 PM
"On Nov. 30, 2006, we missed an opportunity for earlier closure to this situation," Rupf said. "A caller to our 911 dispatch offered that there were tents in the neighbor's backyard, that people were living in them and that there were young children. The caller also said that Garrido was psychotic and had a sexual addiction."

Money was on the police force at that time, fielded the call, and decided the guy should be rewarded for his ingenuity by 'losing' the paperwork.  :cool:
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KRonn

Quote from: Caliga on August 28, 2009, 03:02:08 PM
Quote from: KRonn on August 28, 2009, 02:44:08 PM
"On Nov. 30, 2006, we missed an opportunity for earlier closure to this situation," Rupf said. "A caller to our 911 dispatch offered that there were tents in the neighbor's backyard, that people were living in them and that there were young children. The caller also said that Garrido was psychotic and had a sexual addiction."

Money was on the police force at that time, fielded the call, and decided the guy should be rewarded for his ingenuity by 'losing' the paperwork.  :cool:
Ah, too bad then, that the neighbor's call didn't mention anything about cats or kittens also living out in that back yard.    ;)

Josephus

Apparently some psychiatrist on CNN has said that this girl will be scarred for life.  :huh:



How many years of school do you have to take to become a psychiatrist?
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KRonn

Quote from: Josephus on August 28, 2009, 03:06:00 PM
Apparently some psychiatrist on CNN has said that this girl will be scarred for life.  :huh:



How many years of school do you have to take to become a psychiatrist?
Um...did they mention anything about Stockholm Syndrome??   :huh:

Caliga

Quote from: Josephus on August 28, 2009, 03:06:00 PMHow many years of school do you have to take to become a psychiatrist?

4 years of undergraduate, 4 years of medical school, and then a 4 year psychiatric residency.
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Josephus

My point being that I could have said "scarred for life" without 12 years of higher education.  :lol:
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jimmy olsen

Woah, this guy's now being investigated for the murder of several prostitutes.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32583149/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

QuoteCops: Kidnap suspect eyed for murder links
Sex offender's Calif. home searched for clues to prostitute deaths

NBC, msnbc.com and news services
updated 1 hour, 2 minutes ago

ANTIOCH, Calif. - The twisted kidnapping case of a woman reportedly held captive for 18 years in a secluded backyard compound took another disturbing turn Friday as authorities searched the home of her alleged captor for evidence in the murders of several prostitutes.

Officers executed a search warrant at Phillip Garrido's Antioch home for clues in the unsolved slayings, Contra Costa sheriff's Capt. Daniel Terry said.

Several of the murdered women's bodies were dumped near an industrial park where Garrido, a sex offender, worked during the 1990s.

Garrido and his wife, Nancy, were charged Friday with kidnapping 11-year-old Jaycee Lee Dugard in 1991. Authorities said they held her and two children she had with Garrido as prisoners in a backyard encampment.

The couple pleaded not guilty Friday afternoon in El Dorado Superior Court in Placerville to rape, kidnapping and other charges in the Dugard case.

Meanwhile, new evidence surfaced of missed opportunities to arrest Garrido years ago.

Contra Costa County Sheriff Warren E. Rupf said a neighbor reported three years ago there were people living in tents in a backyard encampment at Garrido's home in an unincorporated area of Antioch, about 45 miles northeast of San Francisco, Rupf said.

The neighbor also told police Garrido was psychotic and had a sexual addiction. Rupf said the deputy who visited the home did not know Garrido was a registered sex offender, even though the sheriff's department had the information.

The deputy gave Garrido a warning that people living outdoors was a code violation. The deputy did not go into the backyard of the house, Rupf said.


More suspicion and curiosity on the deputy's part could have uncovered the secret encampment where Dugard allegedly was held, he said.

They "missed an opportunity" and there are "absolutely no excuses," Rupf said, apologizing to the Dugard family.

Stepdad: Victim feels guilt
Phillip Garrido, 58, was arrested Wednesday. Authorities said his 54-year-old wife was with him during the 1991 kidnapping in South Lake Tahoe.

Dugard reunited with her mother, sister and another relative Thursday. They are at an undisclosed San Francisco Bay area hotel, and Dugard's stepfather Carl Probyn said Dugard is doing well under the circumstances.

Dugard, now 29, apparently feels guilty for bonding with her abductor through 18 years in captivity, Probyn said.

Authorities say she was kept behind a series of fences, sheds and tents, even giving birth to her suspected abductor's children in the suburban backyard compound less than 200 miles from her childhood home.

"My wife says Jaycee is really feeling guilty for bonding with this guy. She's really having a problem with that," Probyn told NBC's TODAY show Friday.

Phillip Garrido' s father told The Associated Press his son is "absolutely out of his mind."

Manuel Garrido said his son fell into a bad crowd when he was younger and started taking LSD. The elder Garrido said the drugs changed him from a good boy, whom everybody loved, to an unbalanced person.

Speaking by phone from his house in Brentwood, Manuel Garrido said he hasn't seen his son in years and has never been to the house where Phillip Garrido allegedly held Dugard captive.


Backyard compound
Dugard was taken directly to Garrido's house and sheltered from the world in a secret, leafy backyard, investigators said Thursday. Her abductor, investigators said, raped her and fathered two children with her, the first when Jaycee was about 14. Those girls, now 11 and 15, also were kept hidden away in the backyard compound behind the home.

"None of the children have ever been to school, they've never been to a doctor," El Dorado County Undersheriff Fred Kollar said. "They were kept in complete isolation in this compound."

Even a parole agent who visited Garrido's home didn't have an inkling about the hidden compound, Kollar said. Garrido is a registered sex offender on federal parole for rape and kidnapping convictions.

"The way the house is set up, the way the backyard is set up, you could walk through the backyard, walk through the house, and never know," Kollar said.


But neighbors said there were clues even before a parole agent on Wednesday noticed Dugard, now 29, who accompanied Garrido, his wife and the children to a parole office.

Neighbor Diane Doty said she could see the tents and often heard children playing in the backyard, the corner of which abuts her own backyard. She said she even suspected the children lived in the tents, but her husband said she should leave the family alone.

"I asked my husband, 'Why is he living in tents?'" she said. "And he said, 'Maybe that is how they like to live.'"

Family overjoyed
Dugard's stepfather, who witnessed her abduction and was a longtime suspect in the case, said he was overwhelmed by the news after doing everything he could to help find her.

"I'm really shocked to get her back," Probyn said on the TODAY show.

"Jaycee was really a mellow girl, so that's probably what kept her alive. She just bonded with this guy and she didn't try to get away and it probably kept her alive. If she would have been really spunky and fight and try to escape, maybe she would have been killed. It's just a shock after 18 years that she's still around."

Probyn, 60, said the kidnapping killed his marriage. He is separated from his wife, Terry Probyn. "We were just happy. This destroyed us," he told TODAY.

As for Garrido, Probyn said he had little to say other than he hopes he will spend the rest of his life behind bars. "You're pretty sick," he said.

Break in case
The case broke after Garrido was spotted Tuesday with two children as he tried to enter the University of California, Berkeley, campus to hand out religious literature. Officers said he was acting suspiciously toward the children. They questioned him and did a background check, determined that he was a parolee and informed his parole officer.

Garrido was ordered to appear for a parole meeting and arrived Wednesday with Dugard, who identified herself as "Allissa," his wife, and two children. During questioning, corrections officials said he admitted to kidnapping Dugard.

Police said they had no evidence that Dugard had ever reached out to anyone beyond the compound walls.

"She was in good health, but living in a backyard for the past 18 years does take its toll," Kollar said.

The backyard compound had electricity from extension cords and a rudimentary outhouse and shower, "as if you were camping," Kollar said.

Authorities said they do not know if Garrido also abused his daughters, but they are investigating.

'Little blond girls'
Garrido's compound was about 170 miles from the Dugard family home in South Lake Tahoe.

People who knew Garrido said he became increasingly fanatic about his religious beliefs in recent years, sometimes breaking out into song and claiming that God spoke to him through a box.

"In the last couple years he started getting into this strange religious stuff. We kind of felt sorry for him," said Tim Allen, president of East County Glass and Window Inc. in Pittsburg, Calif., who bought business cards and letterhead from Garrido's printing business for the last decade.

Three times in recent years, Garrido arrived at Allen's showroom with two "cute little blonde girls" in tow, he said.

In April 2008, Garrido registered a corporation called Gods Desire at his home address, according to the California Secretary of State. During recent visits to the showroom, Garrido would talk about quitting the printing business to preach full time and gave the impression he was setting up a church, Allen said.

"He rambled. It made no sense," he said.

Blog postings
In a blog that appears to have been maintained by Garrido, he wrote that he had hired a private investigator to verify his ability to speak to people using only his mind. In an "affadavit" posted there, he said he had the ability to "control sound with my mind and have developed a device for others to witness this phenomena."

Garrido gave a phone interview to KCRA-TV from the El Dorado County jail Thursday in which he said he had not admitted to a kidnapping and that he had turned his life around since the birth of his first daughter 15 years ago.

"I tell you here's the story of what took place at this house, and you're going to be absolutely impressed. It's a disgusting thing that took place from the end to the beginning. But I turned my life completely around," he said.

In addition to kidnapping allegations, court records showed both Garridos were being held for investigation of rape by force, lewd and lascivious acts with a minor and kidnapping someone under 14 with intent to rape. Phillip Garrido also faces allegations of sexual penetration.

Rap sheet
Garrido has a long rap sheet dating to the 1970s.

He was convicted of kidnapping a 25-year-old woman whom he snatched from a South Lake Tahoe parking lot, handcuffed, tied down and held in a mini-warehouse in Reno, according to a November 1976 story in the Reno Gazette-Journal.

He also has a conviction for rape by force or fear stemming from the same incident, and was paroled from a Nevada state prison in 1988, according to the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation.


In 1991, police believe he was trolling for victims in South Lake Tahoe in a Ford Granada when he snatched Dugard from a bus stop outside her home. The case attracted national attention and was featured on TV's "America's Most Wanted," which broadcast a composite drawing of a suspect seen in the car.

Dugard has retained custody of her children and was staying at a Bay area motel, authorities said.

NBC News, The Associated Press and most other media, as a matter of policy, avoid identifying victims of alleged sexual abuse by name in its news reports. However, Dugard's disappearance had been known and reported for nearly two decades, making impossible any effort to shield her identity now.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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merithyn

Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 28, 2009, 11:56:36 AM

I didn't realize how old the daughters were.
Do we know if he raped them as well?  :(

According to one of the articles I read, he claims that the girls "slept in my arms every night" but he didn't touch them. He'd become a born-again Christian once his second daughter was born, he claims. They "touched him deeply".  :rolleyes:
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

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Quote
The case broke after Garrido was spotted Tuesday with two children as he tried to enter the University of California, Berkeley, campus to hand out religious literature.

:lol:

I'm horribly disappointed that it wasn't Yashua Man or Chinese Happy Happy Happy Man