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Started by Josquius, August 26, 2009, 02:27:59 PM

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Dwarves or elves?

Dwarves!
13 (30.2%)
Elves!
18 (41.9%)
Hobbits/Gnomes
5 (11.6%)
Trolls
7 (16.3%)

Total Members Voted: 42

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saskganesh

#30
August 26, 2009, 06:15:27 PM
my major inspirations for gnomes are the munchkins from the 50's OZ cartoons. however, they are not turnip shaped, and look like smaller big nosed dwarfs. they have weird senses of humour.  they like making inventions that do not work so well (high int, low wisdom) ... stuff like paddlewheel warships. they have a thing for breeding giant versions of burrowing animals ... so porcupines, rabbits, badgers especially.

redcaps are an evil clan of gnomes who specialise in boulder traps. fiendish laughter always follows.
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Ed Anger

#31
August 26, 2009, 06:28:06 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 26, 2009, 04:59:38 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 26, 2009, 04:21:06 PM
How the fuck is that kind of like dwarves?

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Grallon

#32
August 26, 2009, 06:30:26 PM
Quote from: Jaron on August 26, 2009, 04:34:26 PM
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And: :nerd: to the rest of your post.


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#33
August 26, 2009, 07:10:19 PM
Tolkien originally called what would become elves in his mythos gnomes.  That being said, I've always leaned toward humans in fantasy settings, as long as they're from the decaying and weakened kingdom, a la Gondor and Solamnia.  Elves as they are in the Silmarillion are pretty sweet, but the later variety are simply too withdrawn and inactive for my tastes.  Dwarves, therefore, take the win over elves in the general fantasy setting.
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Jaron

#34
August 26, 2009, 07:39:28 PM
Rumpelstiltskin was a faerie.
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#35
August 26, 2009, 07:56:08 PM
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HisMajestyBOB

#36
August 26, 2009, 08:22:38 PM
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on August 26, 2009, 07:10:19 PM
Tolkien originally called what would become elves in his mythos gnomes.  That being said, I've always leaned toward humans in fantasy settings, as long as they're from the decaying and weakened kingdom, a la Gondor and Solamnia.  Elves as they are in the Silmarillion are pretty sweet, but the later variety are simply too withdrawn and inactive for my tastes.  Dwarves, therefore, take the win over elves in the general fantasy setting.

The Silmarillion elves were awesome. Bloodthirsty, fratricidal, crazy SOBs. Much better than the modern frilly, fancy-pants holier-than-thous of modern fantasy.
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DontSayBanana

#37
August 26, 2009, 08:28:50 PM
Gnomes as RPG characters do indeed suck, but I was always a fan of "The Secret Book of Gnomes" by Wil Huygen.
Experience bij!

Eddie Teach

#38
August 26, 2009, 09:09:37 PM
Elves need to DIAF.
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Jaron

#39
August 26, 2009, 09:13:51 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 26, 2009, 09:09:37 PM
Elves need to DIAF.

How dare you speak of Eru's children that way!
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Valmy

#40
August 26, 2009, 10:14:12 PM Last Edit: August 26, 2009, 10:18:52 PM by Valmy
Quote from: Barrister on August 26, 2009, 04:34:11 PM
Since when is their identity "magic apt tricksters"?  I won't doubt that somewhere they're described as such, but they don't have the same image in popular fantasy that elves or dwarves have.

Garl Glittergold their god is the god of trickery, their natural tendency to be Illusionists.  I mean even Gnomes that are not Illusionists usually are sneaky little devils.  They are tricksters, practical jokers, they use wit and intelligence to win rather than magic or brawn.  Also they are known for being eccentric and perhaps a bit insane.  Well at least that is how they were in D&D since day 1.  Even in Dragonlance and Everquest they are known for their spectacular intelligence and eccentricity of course. 

The reason they lack the image is they are not from Tolkien which is sort of a kiss of death I suppose.
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Valmy

#41
August 26, 2009, 10:15:46 PM Last Edit: August 26, 2009, 10:17:41 PM by Valmy
Quote from: DontSayBanana on August 26, 2009, 08:28:50 PM
Gnomes as RPG characters do indeed suck

:weep:

Naturally they were my favorite race.

I loved Tiax and Quayle and Jan from the Baldur's Gate series.  All embracing the usual Gnome archtypes.

Quayle: Oh noooo (on dying)

Tiax: Ha ha!  Smart guy dies and Tiax goes on to RULE ALL!!
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

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Valmy

#42
August 26, 2009, 10:18:31 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 26, 2009, 04:59:38 PM
Is it me or are you getting more grumpy lately?

I have.  I think too much time on Languish is doing it to me.  All my grumpy tendencies comes out here.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

#43
August 26, 2009, 10:20:21 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on August 26, 2009, 04:32:21 PM
:bleeding:  Everything in Unearthed Arcana was awful (except the extensive pole arm section.)  All the new classes and races were severely over powered.

Were they introduced in Unearthed Arcana?  I wasn't aware of that.

No wonder they were so powerful!
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

#44
August 26, 2009, 10:22:28 PM
Quote from: Tyr on August 26, 2009, 05:41:35 PM
I've never heard him be called a gnome.

He is the Ur-example of a gnome.  When he appeared in King's Quest I it was as a gnome.

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."
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