What makes a person a particular race?

[Iormlund]

Mexico is more important than Spain.  Therefore, the Mexican way of speaking Spanish trumps the Spanish way.

Mexico is terrorized by drug terrorists, Spain is terrorized by nationalist terrorists.  Mexico wins.

Heh. ETA is a very, very localized phenomenon. Violence in Spain is much lower than in the States*, not to mention Mexico which is pretty much a war zone.

*It has increased with mass immigration, but generally they tend to kill each other.

[Savonarola]

*It has increased with mass immigration, but generally they tend to kill each other.

If you discount black on black crime, Detroit has almost no violence.   

[Iormlund]

I suspect that if you discount blacks, Detroit would have almost no population.

[Caliga]

Heh. ETA is a very, very localized phenomenon. Violence in Spain is much lower than in the States*, not to mention Mexico which is pretty much a war zone.

*It has increased with mass immigration, but generally they tend to kill each other.

So?  Why does violence make them less important countries?  Why, World War II was the most violent war in history, but that doesn't make history's least important war. 

This analogy brought to you by Marti Enterprises(TM). 

[Valmy]

*It has increased with mass immigration, but generally they tend to kill each other.

I don't mean to question Spain's immigration policies but why are you letting masses of people enter the country with your unemployement being so massively high?

[HVC]

*It has increased with mass immigration, but generally they tend to kill each other.

I don't mean to question Spain's immigration policies but why are you letting masses of people enter the country with your unemployement being so massively high?

short trip from africa would be my major guess.

[Iormlund]

Letting people in has nothing to do with immigration. As your own experience with Mexicans shows. If they want to get here they will do so.

Anyway, most came during the last decade, when unemployment was in record lows. The crisis, of course, has changed that and now our politicians are desperately trying to ... shed some weight, by encouraging them to return home.

[Iormlund]

short trip from africa would be my major guess.

Not really. Most illegals enter the country legally, then stay once their student/tourist/work visa is no longer valid.

[Valmy]

Letting people in has nothing to do with immigration. As your own experience with Mexicans shows. If they want to get here they will do so.

Well they come here to work and send money home.  They don't come to just hang out and be unemployed, they can do that just fine back home in Mexico.

[stjaba]

That may be the case in Spain, but even in my Spanish class at University we learned the Latin American version of the language, which included contractions, etc. (

All throughout high school and college, I was fortunate enough to only be taught Spanish the way God wants us to speak it.  Vosotros FTW

My family and I's experience has been simialar to yours. My brother, who was more or less fluent in Spanish(due to our Cuban background) before he started taking Spanish classes in high school got crappy grades because his grammar and spelling were poor were "non-standard." At UF, which has tons of native speakers taking Spanish classes, the standard that is taught is standard Spanish. Now, while people do not necessarily use the vosotros form in upper level classes, sloppiness is not tolerated either.

[Sheilbh]

Mexico is more important than Spain.  Therefore, the Mexican way of speaking Spanish trumps the Spanish way.

Mexico is nowhere near as important as Spain.

Also Mexican Spanish is hideous.  I look forward to the Argentine dominance of Spanish

[katmai]

Also Mexican Spanish is hideous.  I look forward to the Argentine dominance of Spanish

Chinga tu madre.

[Razgovory]

I predict in 100 years Spain will be speaking English.

Fixed

I thought Nahuatl was all the rage in Spain.

[saskganesh]

Mexico is more important than Spain.  Therefore, the Mexican way of speaking Spanish trumps the Spanish way.

Mexico is nowhere near as important as Spain.

Mexico has a higher GDP I think. what's your gauge?

[Octavian]

Mexico borders the United States, and therefore a bit of our awesomeness spills over the border and gives Mexico the win.