Canadian Woman Allowed To Return Thanks To DNA Test

[Berkut]

Wow, that Chris Hume guy is quite the asshole, isn't he?

[Razgovory]

Well at least she wasn't murder by a Canadian Healthcare Death Panel.

[Valmy]

But it is a point worth remembering, especially in the face of mounting evidence that Prime Minister Stephen Harper's regime is determined to create different categories of citizenship. According to the administration's new meaning of Canadian citizenship, the main qualification is not residence, place of birth, oath of allegiance or passport – it's the colour of your skin.

And in Canada today, God help you if you're not white, because the federal government sure won't. Indeed, that government creates these problems in the first place.

I bet his analysis would be completely different if the Liberals were in power.

This isn't just another political scandal; this is cause for deep national shame. This smacks not just of prejudice, but of apartheid.

What?  It also wasn't genocide?  Hyperbole fail.

[Valmy]

Well at least she wasn't murder by a Canadian Healthcare Death Panel.

[Josephus]

What?  It also wasn't genocide?  Hyperbole fail.

She didn't die, did she. 

[Jacob]

Sounds like she just got screwed to me via bureaucratic BS.  That is always a danger you have to consider when you go abroad...especially to places like Kenya where things have been a bit sketchy of late.

That's a fucking retarded statement from you Valmy.  Seriously.

You should consider that your own government decides not to help you if you go to places like Kenya?

[saskganesh]

Wow, that Chris Hume guy is quite the asshole, isn't he?

on this topic, yeah, he's playing one quite well.

he's a very good urban affairs/architecture critic.

but onto the subject, I think its more to do with bureaucratic irresponsibility than a government-sponsored program of applied racism. for example, Harper and co. implemented  a mass rescue of Lebanese Canadians (50,000?) in 2006. if he was raciss, he would not do that (nor would he be aggressively courting immigrant groups to be part of his Conservative Party.)

now, whoever fucked up here, I hope they do get disciplined.

[Eddie Teach]

That's a fucking retarded statement from you Valmy.  Seriously.

You should consider that your own government decides not to help you if you go to places like Kenya?

He'll probably be fine, as long as he goes within the next 4-8 years. They wouldn't want to embarrass the God-Emperor.

[Valmy]

Sounds like she just got screwed to me via bureaucratic BS.  That is always a danger you have to consider when you go abroad...especially to places like Kenya where things have been a bit sketchy of late.

That's a fucking retarded statement from you Valmy.  Seriously.

You should consider that your own government decides not to help you if you go to places like Kenya?

Yes not going to North Korea and assuming I can just rely on my government to bail me out if I get screwed around by the local authorities is totally retarded.  I am now being smart and booking my trip to Pyongyang as I type.

[Slargos]

Wow, that Chris Hume guy is quite the asshole, isn't he?

I don't know who he is, but he certainly paints a rosy picture of how things could be.

[Barrister]

Sorry if I missed the story about the Ukrainian Canadian held in a Ukrainian jail for 12 weeks and Canadian authorities not doing anything.

Link?

How about the Polish citizen who was tazered and died while in RCMP custody?

[Barrister]

That's a fucking retarded statement from you Valmy.  Seriously.

You should consider that your own government decides not to help you if you go to places like Kenya?

These kinds of situations are a minefield for the government though.  Canadian citizens frequently get into legal trouble in foreign countries.  And most of the time it is well deserved.  It's very difficult for Canadian consular officials to be able to validate someone's claim of opression in a foreign country when they have zero resources on the ground.

And the example of Lebanon is interesting because I think the government got quite a bit of heat for that after spending millions of dollars to evacuate people, only to find most of them returned within a year.

[katmai]

Sorry if I missed the story about the Ukrainian Canadian held in a Ukrainian jail for 12 weeks and Canadian authorities not doing anything.

Link?

How about the Polish citizen who was tazered and died while in RCMP custody?

It wasn't the right Pole sadly

[Malthus]

That's a fucking retarded statement from you Valmy.  Seriously.

You should consider that your own government decides not to help you if you go to places like Kenya?

These kinds of situations are a minefield for the government though.  Canadian citizens frequently get into legal trouble in foreign countries.  And most of the time it is well deserved.  It's very difficult for Canadian consular officials to be able to validate someone's claim of opression in a foreign country when they have zero resources on the ground.

And the example of Lebanon is interesting because I think the government got quite a bit of heat for that after spending millions of dollars to evacuate people, only to find most of them returned within a year.

I suspect that the complaint is that they are willing to try harder for some people than for others. I suspect this is true - in this case not so much based on "race" but rather on posting. If you are posted to a place where a lot of scamming goes on, you are more likely to be less solicitous.

[Jacob]

Yes not going to North Korea and assuming I can just rely on my government to bail me out if I get screwed around by the local authorities is totally retarded.  I am now being smart and booking my trip to Pyongyang as I type.

I guess we have very different ideas about what a government is supposed to do.  For me, one of the first duties of a government is to help out its citizens abroad if they get in trouble.

I dunno... maybe it's a cultural thing.