Grade Obama

[Sheilbh]

Not necessarily.  One could combine the ability to reason with a belief in "the greater good" and the end result is self-censorship.

Out of general interest where am I on the scale of partisan hackery?

[Berkut]

Not necessarily.  One could combine the ability to reason with a belief in "the greater good" and the end result is self-censorship.

Out of general interest where am I on the scale of partisan hackery?

Partisan - Moderate.

Hackery - Low.

Although to be fair, I am not familiar enough with brit politics to judge it in that context. I cannot really remember which party is which.

[Ed Anger]

Although to be fair, I am not familiar enough with brit politics to judge it in that context. I cannot really remember which party is which.

Labour - Centrist-left fruits

Tories -Centrist-Right fruits

Lib Dems- Flaming fruits and nuts

And a bunch of small fruity parties.

[Admiral Yi]

I agree with the first part.  Do you not think that they've been making an argument consistently to oppose it and to turn opinion against it?  By avoiding making statements don't you also think they're to some extent trying to kill it by slowing it down.  That was LBJ's strategy, when he was in Majority Leader, for killing something he didn't want to be seen to be killing but did want to die.

I don't think the Republicans have been particularly vocal on the issue.  As I mentioned a while back, the kinds of things I've heard them say have been: a public option would hurt insurance companies (who cares) and it's a big chunck of GDP, we shouldn't rush into this.

The legislative battle is being fought between ObamaPelosiReid and the Blue Dogs.  Republicans are spectators.

There's a significant volume of issues ads on health care reform, but that's being financed and driven by special interest groups.

I can't guarantee there isn't at least GOP Congressman or Senator on record as opposing any kind of health care bill, but the elected officials and the RNC are bit players overall.

[Admiral Yi]

Not necessarily.  One could combine the ability to reason with a belief in "the greater good" and the end result is self-censorship.

Out of general interest where am I on the scale of partisan hackery?

10 being Fireblade, you're probably a 3.5.

[Eddie Teach]

The GOP pols may be keeping mum but their affiliated pundits are doing their best to sink the bill.

[Razgovory]

Anyway, on that amusing note, I'll end this pleasant exchange.  Back to by default mode of operation with that keen observer of forum members.

Meaning random drive by trolling while pretending not to read people posts who disagree with you but actually reading everything they post and around building up your emorage until you can't hold it in any longer?

Good luck with that. See you in a couple more months.

Okay just a question, but how are you able to read his mind like that?

[derspiess]

[Caliga]

Black Carter. 

[derspiess]

Black Carter. 

My dad always reminded me of a white Bill Cosby.

[Admiral Yi]

Zow-ie.  That was quite the speech Obama just gave on health care.

[DGuller]

Zow-ie.  That was quite the speech Obama just gave on health care.

Yes, it was very powerful and moving.  Do you know what he said?

[Admiral Yi]

Yes, it was very powerful and moving.  Do you know what he said?

Some.

[DontSayBanana]

Yes, it was very powerful and moving.  Do you know what he said?

Some.

Transcript and/or source for self-research?

[Berkut]

Zow-ie.  That was quite the speech Obama just gave on health care.

Was the things he said actually connected to his health care proposal?

I've heard a lot of Dems complain that what he says sounds very far reaching and reformist, while what he proposes has no actual relationship to such things, and are mostly reactionary and lack any real vision.