Ohio, the heart of it all

[Admiral Yi]

Explain it to me.

Answer my question.

[Razgovory]

Explain it to me.

Answer my question.

Kinda see a difference in motive.  However, I don't know the banks motive.  Maybe you could explain it better?

[Admiral Yi]

Kinda see a difference in motive.  However, I don't know the banks motive.  Maybe you could explain it better?

Yeah, tough to understand the bank's motive.  For all we know they could have emptied out the house and hauled all the furniture to the dump for the sheer thrill of it.  Or maybe they just sleep better at night knowing some random person doesn't have furniture.

But let's assume for the sake of argument none of that is true.  So they're taking her furniture, not for profit, but to make what they assume to be their property resalable. They're admitting their error.  They're negotiating over restitution.  None of those things is characteristic of a robbery.

[Neil]

Yeah, that doesn't really seem like the sort of thing that criminal law exists for.  The bank people were doing what they had done a million times before, and had no way of knowing that what they were doing was wrong.  It's a civil law sort of thing.

Unfortunately, lawyering up won't work.  The bank has more expensive lawyers, and it'll drag on for years in court.  In the end, she'll recover pennies on the dollar of the value of her stuff, and most of that will go to paying the despicable lawyering scum.

[Razgovory]

Kinda see a difference in motive.  However, I don't know the banks motive.  Maybe you could explain it better?

Yeah, tough to understand the bank's motive.  For all we know they could have emptied out the house and hauled all the furniture to the dump for the sheer thrill of it.  Or maybe they just sleep better at night knowing some random person doesn't have furniture.

But let's assume for the sake of argument none of that is true.  So they're taking her furniture, not for profit, but to make what they assume to be their property resalable. They're admitting their error.  They're negotiating over restitution.  None of those things is characteristic of a robbery.

Okay, but would you assume the same for any individual who took someone's property and claimed that it was actually their property for resale?

[Admiral Yi]

Okay, but would you assume the same for any individual who took someone's property and claimed that it was actually their property for resale?

If an individual emptied out a house, threw away the furniture, put up a foreclosed sign, told the lady it was all a mistake, gave the house back, and offered to pay her some money, I would assume the exact same thing.

[jimmy olsen]

But let's assume for the sake of argument none of that is true.  So they're taking her furniture, not for profit, but to make what they assume to be their property resalable. They're admitting their error.  They're negotiating over restitution.  None of those things is characteristic of a robbery.

Sure it was an accident, but people get prosecuted when they kill someone by accident. If someone dies on the job due to negligence, someone at the company still gets prosecuted for manslaughter don't they?

[Razgovory]

Okay, but would you assume the same for any individual who took someone's property and claimed that it was actually their property for resale?

If an individual emptied out a house, threw away the furniture, put up a foreclosed sign, told the lady it was all a mistake, gave the house back, and offered to pay her some money, I would assume the exact same thing.

Wait, hold up.  Nobody said they "threw away the furniture". All that was said was that they refused to return it and refused to pay market value for it.  They could have sold it, and are only willing to pay less then got when they sold the furniture.  In fact, I don't think they put up a foreclosure sign either, since the woman went to the police and the police only told them the bank had taken her stuff a couple months later.  If they put up the sign it's likely the police or the woman would have figured it out earlier.

So take away, "threw away the furniture", "Put up a foreclosed sign", and giving the house back part (they could hardly give back a house they didn't have and she was already in), and put in "had the police track them down" to it would assume the same thing?

[Admiral Yi]

I'm pretty certain the owner doesn't take the furniture down to...where ever you think they might take it to sell in an eviction.

[Razgovory]

Why?  You think they just lit on fire or something?  The repo company sells that shit at auction.

[CountDeMoney]

Sure it was an accident, but people get prosecuted when they kill someone by accident. If someone dies on the job due to negligence, someone at the company still gets prosecuted for manslaughter don't they?

Of course they do;  everybody from cops to doctors are found criminally liable as private citizens when they illegally act outside the scope of their responsibilities.  Happens every day.  Except to banks.

[Ed Anger]

Goodbye fun thread. You was fun when it was about guys dressing up in women's bathing suits.

RIP

[CountDeMoney]

Don't worry, Ed.  There will always be serial killers, kidnappers and other fruity bullshit that always happens out there to post about.  It's Ohio.

[Ed Anger]

 

Still got Cleveland.

[Caliga]

Polish boys.