Ohio, the heart of it all

[Valmy]

Yes lets mandate expensive new wall requirements because one kid in Ohio did something. We'll make Canada pay for it.

So expensive that every private pool owner in this city can afford them around their entire pools, but evidently large zoos in the US can't afford them across their gorilla habitats.  I guess it is true about the sad decline of the states ... 

If you own a private pool in a bubble infested real-estate dystopia like Toronto you are already used to shelling out obscene amounts of money for walls. That doesn't mean we want to traipse down that dark path.

[derspiess]

Yes lets mandate expensive new wall requirements because one kid in Ohio did something. We'll make Canada pay for it.

So expensive that every private pool owner in this city can afford them around their entire pools, but evidently large zoos in the US can't afford them across their gorilla habitats.  I guess it is true about the sad decline of the states ... 

If they built high walls, you wouldn't be able to see the gorillas. 

[CountDeMoney]

Boom.

[Malthus]

Yes lets mandate expensive new wall requirements because one kid in Ohio did something. We'll make Canada pay for it.

So expensive that every private pool owner in this city can afford them around their entire pools, but evidently large zoos in the US can't afford them across their gorilla habitats.  I guess it is true about the sad decline of the states ... 

If they built high walls, you wouldn't be able to see the gorillas.

It isn't the height, it's the tech. The fence has to be "non climbable" by young children only; if adults vault over it into the gorilla pit, that's on them.

From the by-law:

NON-CLIMBABLE - Describes a 1.2-metre vertical face presented to the exterior of a swimming pool enclosure. For an enclosure of chain link construction, means a mesh which is no greater than 38 millimetres square for a minimum of 1.2 metres vertically. For all other enclosures, means that there is no horizontal opening or step greater than 38 millimetres in width for 1.2 metres vertically, or where horizontal components are a minimum of 1.2 metres apart there shall be no opening greater than 100 millimetres.

Height of a "non climbable" fence properly built according to this code: 1.2 meters. Height of existing fence the kid somehow got through or over: 3'. Not exactly an enormous height difference.

[The Minsky Moment]

If they built high walls, you wouldn't be able to see the gorillas.

Apparently plexiglass has also failed to reach Ohio. 

[derspiess]

If they built high walls, you wouldn't be able to see the gorillas.

Apparently plexiglass has also failed to reach Ohio. 

HE NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THAT

[Valmy]

See now the Canadians, and I consider Malthus the mouthpiece for the entire Canadian nation, are demanding we all invest in expensive wall tech just because of some kid in Ohio. Maybe Ohio should be walled off instead of the rest of us.

[Duque de Bragança]

See now the Canadians, and I consider Malthus the mouthpiece for the entire Canadian nation, are demanding we all invest in expensive wall tech just because of some kid in Ohio. Maybe Ohio should be walled off instead of the rest of us.

What is it with (North) Americans wanting their respective southern neighbors to pay for walls? 

[Valmy]

See now the Canadians, and I consider Malthus the mouthpiece for the entire Canadian nation, are demanding we all invest in expensive wall tech just because of some kid in Ohio. Maybe Ohio should be walled off instead of the rest of us.

What is it with (North) Americans wanting their respective southern neighbors to pay for walls? 

It is symbolic of the walls we um...build around our cold New World hearts. We also want free stuff.

[CountDeMoney]

Unfortunately enclosure design doesn't take every possibility into account.  There is a level of expectation that a parent is going to make sure her useless brat isn't going to scale a barrier, crawl through vegetation and jump into a moat.

San Fransisco Zoo didn't expect any problems from their tiger enclosure, until a tiger had about enough from shitty fucking kids throwing shit at her, and she jumped what was considered an unjumpable barrier, and twisted one of the shit's caps back.

It's bullshit like this that results in lawyers doing lawyer shit, like a future where they counsel zoos to bar kids from entry. NO PERSONS UNDER 18 ALLOWED

[Legbiter]

Saw also on the Beeb that all these zoos now have kill teams after a Pittsburg mom lifted her 2 year old over a barrier so he could better see the dozen or so African Wild Dogs and promptly dropped the kid into their enclosure. The dogs treated this surprising windfall as a light snack.

[derspiess]

So first there was a big FB backlash against the mother and/or zoo, and now there's equally self-righteous backlash against the backlash.  Hopefully we'll see a backlash against the backlash against the backlash.

[garbon]

So first there was a big FB backlash against the mother and/or zoo, and now there's equally self-righteous backlash against the backlash.  Hopefully we'll see a backlash against the backlash against the backlash.

Fuck you.

[derspiess]

Ooh honey you couldn't afford it!  <airsnap>

[garbon]

Ooh honey you couldn't afford it!  <airsnap>

Plus, I wouldn't want to catch a social disease from you.