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Trump's Venezuela Vendetta

Started by Syt, December 17, 2025, 12:23:32 AM

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HVC

Quote from: Razgovory on December 19, 2025, 08:45:14 PM
Quote from: HVC on December 19, 2025, 07:47:59 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 19, 2025, 12:33:28 PM
Quote from: HVC on December 19, 2025, 12:02:30 PMThe pattern seems to be when Raz says a lot of people it's the impression he gets from Facebook.
Also what people say here.

Getting off Facebook would do you a world of good. And that's advice that works for most people, actually.
Sophie posts on Facebook?  Also articles on Axios and the Atlantic.

I mean if you follow Sophie on Facebook then sure, stop reading what she posts there :lol:
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Razgovory

Honestly I think you guys are kinda echo-chambery. :)
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Zoupa

Quote from: Razgovory on December 19, 2025, 08:40:33 PMPerhaps show you me exactly what this celebration looked like.  I can't fine anything where he "celebrated" it.  I looked around and couldn't find anything. Also please show me the other senator who did that.  You used the plural.

You can use semantics all you want, it doesn't detract from my point.

HVC

Quote from: Razgovory on December 19, 2025, 08:51:10 PMHonestly I think you guys are kinda echo-chambery. :)

K, what's that have to do with the ills of Facebook? You want a separate echo chamber that echos your preferred biased views? If so you do you then :)
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Valmy

Quote from: Razgovory on December 19, 2025, 08:51:10 PMHonestly I think you guys are kinda echo-chambery. :)

Well fucking good for us.

Fits right in on the internet anyway.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Jacob

"Echo chamber" = "you happen to disagree with me and agree somewhat with each other, so I'll use a term to make that sound bad"

HVC

Quote from: Jacob on December 19, 2025, 09:39:29 PM"Echo chamber" = "you happen to disagree with me and agree somewhat with each other, so I'll use a term to make that sound bad"

It's just weird insult overall. No community, be it physical or virtual, can survive without at least some shared views. You just gotta pick which echo chamber you prefer. He just prefers the one that seems designed to enrage and radicalize old people.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Razgovory

Quote from: Zoupa on December 19, 2025, 08:51:32 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 19, 2025, 08:40:33 PMPerhaps show you me exactly what this celebration looked like.  I can't fine anything where he "celebrated" it.  I looked around and couldn't find anything. Also please show me the other senator who did that.  You used the plural.

You can use semantics all you want, it doesn't detract from my point.
So... you lied.  I get it.
Quote from: Jacob on December 19, 2025, 09:39:29 PM"Echo chamber" = "you happen to disagree with me and agree somewhat with each other, so I'll use a term to make that sound bad"

As in "stop listening to other sources. It's making you disagree with us".
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory



It's not an insult, it's observation.  I'm not exactly clear on why you are talking about facebook in this context.  That I go to lots of websites where people disagree with me?  Certainly I do see hateful extremism and batshit conspiracy stuff on Facebook.  And I often see those extremists point to the other side and say "no, the real bad guys, the real hate, the real violence comes other side.  It's always the other side, whatever faults we have, the other side is worse.  They are the ones that you need to watch out for!"  So it's somewhat distressing when I see same arguments here.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Zoupa

Why don't you look at data then, see where most of the violence originates. I'm not even talking about violent speech, but violent actions motivated by political beliefs. You can scream "both-sides!!!" all you want, but outside of your computer screen is the real world, and the real world tells a story of one side overwhelmingly being more violent than the other.

Razgovory

As far as I know Zoupa, the only one on this board who directly advocated for political violence in the US on this board... is you.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Zoupa

Gonna repeat myself since you seem to have missed it:

Why don't you look at data then, see where most of the violence originates. I'm not even talking about violent speech, but violent actions motivated by political beliefs. You can scream "both-sides!!!" all you want, but outside of your computer screen is the real world, and the real world tells a story of one side overwhelmingly being more violent than the other.

Sophie Scholl

Quote from: HVC on December 19, 2025, 08:49:21 PMI mean if you follow Sophie on Facebook then sure, stop reading what she posts there :lol:
:o
"Everything that brought you here -- all the things that made you a prisoner of past sins -- they are gone. Forever and for good. So let the past go... and live."

"Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did."

HVC

Quote from: Sophie Scholl on Today at 02:12:22 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 19, 2025, 08:49:21 PMI mean if you follow Sophie on Facebook then sure, stop reading what she posts there :lol:
:o

Take one for the team :P
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Sophie Scholl

Do I have to take that bullet like Trump or Kirk, though?  :hmm:
"Everything that brought you here -- all the things that made you a prisoner of past sins -- they are gone. Forever and for good. So let the past go... and live."

"Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did."