Trump's Venezuela Vendetta

[Savonarola]

Who's they? 

You'd have to ask Candace Owens.

[The Minsky Moment]

have another No Kings protest in a few months, on a Saturday, then post about it from your suburban home on your L shaped couch

Stop spying on me, damn you!

[Zoupa]

Who's they? 

You'd have to ask Candace Owens.

What's funny is that the crazier she becomes, the more popular her show is. 

[Lucidor]

Oh man

[Tamas]

Apparently the Russians made quite an angry warning against Trump attacking Venezuela, so it is not going to happen.

[viper37]

You can't reclaim democracy with polls.

Squirt guns aren't much help, either.

2nd amendment has its limits, I guess?

[viper37]

He also has the adoration of 50% of the voting public and the acquiescence if not right out support of another large chunk. The American public is not free of blame. And for however much longer they're a democracy* the population also bares the moral burden of what's happening.

*only kind of joking.

Public opinion surveys suggest that this is a wild exaggeration.

Agre about the moral burden, though. Having second thoughts does not excuse making the irredeemable mistake of voting for him in the first place.

Public polls said he was going to lose... twice. They've lost some credibility

Public polls had him ahead this last time. Don't make shit up.

https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-harris-polls
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/elections/polls-president.html

These two show Kamala winning the popular vote.

You have a Wikipedia article here about polling accuracy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election#Polling_accuracy

Tl;dr:
Polls were "inacurate" within the margin of error, about 3%.  In Iowa, Trump won by 13% while one famous pollster predicted a Kamal win by 3%.

Trump was predicted to win Texas and Florida by 7%, he won them by 13%.

2024 polls were more accurate than 2016.

[viper37]

Re: civilian pushback, opposition to war is one of the more common things for civilian opposition to coalesce around.

Only if there are soldiers coming back home in body bags.

And even then.

You can't say there's mounting opposition to the war in Russia.  It has been successfully squashed.  If there's still any opposition left, they're keeping quiet.

There's no plan for a ground invasion of Venezuela.  Worst case scenario is a couple of planes of helicopters lost, injuries on board a ship.  Same as with previous military interventions.

Nothing to generate massive riots.  A few protests here and there that won't be covered by national medias.  Nothing to traumatize a President.

[viper37]

Man, they are already killed Charlie Kirk.  What the fuck else do you want?

Who killed Kirk?  Was there some kind of nefarious plot that the FBI isn't aware of?
Man, what are you waiting for?  Why don't you contact them with that info?

[mongers]

Apparently the Russians made quite an angry warning against Trump attacking Venezuela, so it is not going to happen.

OK so he'll turn on Guyana instead. 

[Valmy]

Man, they are already killed Charlie Kirk.  What the fuck else do you want?

It was one weird internet brained freak.

And Kirk was just some random debate bro. Not sure what killing him does for anybody.

[Razgovory]

Man, they are already killed Charlie Kirk.  What the fuck else do you want?

It was one weird internet brained freak.

And Kirk was just some random debate bro. Not sure what killing him does for anybody.

Eh, he was pretty big in Republican circles.  He wasn't in the President's inner circle, but he met with the President several times.  It's not like he was some rando.  Turning Point raised hundreds of millions of dollars.  

I was not impressed with people cheering his death or coming up with conspiracy theories to deflect blame.

[Zoupa]

US senators celebrated the right wing Trumpist killing 2 Minnesota politicians. I think that's more impactful than randos on twitter or facebook making fun of Charlie Kirk's murder.

[Valmy]

Man, they are already killed Charlie Kirk.  What the fuck else do you want?

It was one weird internet brained freak.

And Kirk was just some random debate bro. Not sure what killing him does for anybody.

Eh, he was pretty big in Republican circles.  He wasn't in the President's inner circle, but he met with the President several times.  It's not like he was some rando.  Turning Point raised hundreds of millions of dollars. 

I was not impressed with people cheering his death or coming up with conspiracy theories to deflect blame.

Blame from who? Who deserves blame?

At least the people celebrating his death was not Joe Biden or somebody. Just some randos and d-list celebrities. A bunch probably bots. And if somebody celebrating thinking his cause experienced a setback was misguided anyway. It was just another of an endless series of pointless and tragic shootings in this country.

Turning point was funded for hundreds of millions and he was the dude tasked to be its face but he was just some easily replaceable debate bro. Lots of transeant media stars pass through that ecosystem. Who is a big deal today will be forgotten tomorrow.