Iran War?

[Zanza]

Bessent called the blockade a "temporary chokepoint" and implored American allies to help secure the strait.
"They're the ones who need this oil," he said. "The U.S., we're an oil exporter."

"Oh, your supply got cut because of our actions? Watcha gonna do about it?"

The US as a country and the 1% that actually own the oil companies will profit. American car owners will share the pain of the rest of the world. Bessent knows that of course. Driving up gas prices in the US is probably one of the most potent weapons against the Trump regime.

[Sophie Scholl]

I'm just saying I live in America, I see household spending, we aren't a country in struggle. That's largely a fake news narrative people ran for 4 years under Biden. I think America is mostly indolent and intolerant of even a little bit of adversity.

Out of curiosity, do you think your view of the way things are now in America versus 2007 might be tied to being a much better financial situation yourself and interacting with folks who are also in a much better situation? As someone who was broke and working borderline jobs in 2007 and in 2026 and interacts with a lot of folks in said positions, including a lot of younger folks, I don't agree with your assessment of the health of America's economy and population's lack of adversity.

[Norgy]

Oh sure I don't think it matters much at all (if anything allowing the regime to get some fresh blood and maybe hardlining) at a practical or operational level.

But I think at the level of symbol and meaning - especially for a Shia theocracy given how central martyrdom and resistance are to Shia Islam - I think it's difficult to overstate.

A key psychological factor that a lot of analysts miss.

I think most who remember the Iraqi invasion of Iran do think about this. The Iranis sent children out to walk over minefields. Even children need a special motivation to do that.

I suppose the information bombardment we get every day makes us forgetful and that we overlook simple things. Like "Don't fuck with Iran".

[crazy canuck]

Bessent called the blockade a "temporary chokepoint" and implored American allies to help secure the strait.
"They're the ones who need this oil," he said. "The U.S., we're an oil exporter."

"Oh, your supply got cut because of our actions? Watcha gonna do about it?"

The US as a country and the 1% that actually own the oil companies will profit. American car owners will share the pain of the rest of the world. Bessent knows that of course. Driving up gas prices in the US is probably one of the most potent weapons against the Trump regime.

If you read OVB's post dismissing the problem and calling American's who complain about the increasing cost of living, you will have seen what the Trumpists think about the economic pain being inflicted on Americans.

[Grey Fox]

The USS Tripoli cross the Strait of Malacca 2 days ago. Expect the invasion on Tuesday night EDT.

[Tamas]

I guess it's inevitable.

[jimmy olsen]

    
https://archive.ph/Us4Kv

Trump mulls risky Kharg Island takeover to force Iran to open strait

The Trump administration is considering plans to occupy or blockade Iran's Kharg Island to pressure Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, four sources with knowledge of the issue tell Axios.

Why it matters: President Trump can't end the war, at least on his terms, until he breaks Iran's chokehold on shipping through the strait. In the meantime, global energy prices are surging.

But an operation to take over Kharg Island, which sits 15 miles offshore and processes 90% of Iran's crude oil exports, could put U.S. troops more directly in the line of fire.

Thus, such an operation would only be launched after the U.S. military further degrades Iran's military capacity around the Strait of Hormuz. "We need about a month to weaken the Iranians more with strikes, take the island and then get them by the balls and use it for negotiations," a source with knowledge of the White House thinking said.

Such an operation, if approved, would also require more troops. Three different Marine units are on their way to the region. The White House and the Pentagon are considering sending even more troops soon, a U.S. official said.

What they're saying: "He wants Hormuz open. If he has to take Kharg Island to make it happen, that's going to happen. If he decides to have a coastal invasion, that's going to happen. But that decision hasn't been made," a senior administration official told Axios.

"We've always had boots on the ground in conflicts under every president, including Trump. I know this is a fixation in the media, and I get the politics, but the president is going to do what's right," a second senior official said, adding no decision had been made.

Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), who chairs the Senate Intelligence Committee, said Trump had been "prudent" not to rule out a ground invasion, though he wouldn't say whether he was in favor.

Cotton contended that closing the strait was an act of desperation by Iran, but said Trump had "mountains of plans" for that contingency.

The flip side: While Kharg Island is critical to Iran's oil industry, there's no guarantee that taking it would convince Tehran to make peace on Trump's terms.

Rear Admiral (Ret.) Mark Montgomery told Axios such a mission could expose U.S. troops to an unnecessary degree of risk given the uncertain upside.

"If we seize Kharg Island, they're going to turn off the spigot on the other end. It's not like we control their oil production," he said.

Montgomery said it was more likely that after around two more weeks of attacks to degrade Iran's capabilities, the U.S. would send destroyers and aircraft into the strait to escort tankers, eliminating the need for an invasion.

Flashback: Trump originally wanted to end the war before his planned trip to China at the end of March.

The crisis in the strait has compelled him to postpone that trip and continue the war longer than he'd planned, two sources with knowledge said.
Last Friday, the U.S. military conducted massive airstrikes on dozens of military targets on Kharg Island.

The strike was a "shot across the bow" to convince the Iranians to reopen the strait, U.S. officials said. But it was also a preparatory step to degrade Iran's military capabilities on the island and lay the groundwork for a potential ground operation.

"We can take out the island anytime we want. I call it the little island that sits there so totally unprotected. We've taken out everything but the pipes. We left the pipes because to rebuild the pipes would take years for them," Trump said on Thursday.

Trump also told reporters on Thursday that he was "not putting troops anywhere," though he added: "If I were, I certainly wouldn't tell you."
Behind the scenes: Three sources said an occupation of the island by ground troops is under serious consideration.

Another option is to impose a naval blockade and prevent tankers from reaching the island.

One source said Pentagon lawyers had even been consulted to provide opinions on the legality of such potential moves.

What's next: In addition to the 2,500-strong Marine expeditionary force that will arrive within days, two more similarly sized units are also heading to the region.

The White House and Pentagon are discussing further reinforcements beyond that, but no decision has been made. Newsmax and Reuters first reported on the reinforcement plans.

One source cautioned that there are many potential operations for the Marines beyond Kharg Island, such as evacuating staff from embassies in the region if necessary.

[PJL]

Something that has really surprised me about this whole conflict is that there have been no large-scale protests in the West about the whole thing. Certainly, no mention of it in the MSM, but even on my social media feeds, very little has been mentioned re the whole situation.

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

This would be the real life equivalent of the HOI AI making a single-division amphibious assault and watching it get wiped out.

[Legbiter]

   
https://archive.ph/Us4Kv

Burgers will reopen the Strait of Hormuz the exact day the last intact oil installation in the Gulf gets blown up by drones.

[mongers]

Something that has really surprised me about this whole conflict is that there have been no large-scale protests in the West about the whole thing. Certainly, no mention of it in the MSM, but even on my social media feeds, very little has been mentioned re the whole situation.

Many people who disagree with this war might think demonstrating against it could be seen as a sign of support for the murderous Iranian clerics/rulers?

Though I do take your point, I'm surprised there isn't 'Stop the War Coalition' organised ones, especially as the UK is actively involved in this war, whatever the government says.

[OttoVonBismarck]

I have little doubt we could take Kharg but I also don't see an immediate reason Iran wouldn't rain down nonstop drones and missiles on our ground forces there--being able to claim U.S. Marine deaths will be something Iran would be licking their chops over.

I don't know the geography of that island very well, the only question I'd have is maybe Iran would be hesitant to bomb the island for fear of destroying energy infrastructure critical to their economy.

[crazy canuck]

Israeli strike against journalist covering the Israeli attacks in Lebanon destroying the bridges to the South.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DWE4seNl8TF/?igsh=aDNxa2wyenk3bGIz

[Jacob]

"We've always had boots on the ground in conflicts under every president..."

Well then, that shows that it's a good idea to do it now I suppose.

[Legbiter]

I don't understand because they've already won the war?