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Started by Jacob, February 16, 2025, 02:00:06 PM

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Legbiter

Britain is going to hurry in Ukrainian experts to the Gulf to help deal with the drone swarms.

https://x.com/Tendar/status/2028230160701342014
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Valmy

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 04:52:22 PMHow many times do we have to play this old record?  Crowds cheering the fall of Saddam, the fall of Qadaffi.  And then what. What makes it even less optimistic is that there is literally no armed or organized opposition force on the ground, as distinct from the US Army in Iraq and powerful armed militias in Syria and Libya.  There is literally nothing on the ground to take advantage of any regime weakness.

It's just nuts watching these MAGA people spend years lecturing the old Bush neocons on how naive they were to think they could blow stuff up in the Middle East and hope that something magical will happen only to rally around and cheer they same thing all over again, only less organized and thought through.

I think my wake up moment was when they interviewed one of the dudes who ripped down the Saddam statue and was all over the news back in 2003. And he lamented that things were actually better before we overthrew Saddam. Damn we even lost the statue ripping down guy.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Sophie Scholl

Diaspora Persians often have quite different views than on the ground Iranians, too. See also: Cubans.
"Everything that brought you here -- all the things that made you a prisoner of past sins -- they are gone. Forever and for good. So let the past go... and live."

"Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did."

Tamas

Doesn't make them wrong.

Valmy

Quote from: Tamas on Today at 06:36:00 PMDoesn't make them wrong.

It is not a question of them being wrong. It is a question as to whether killing this horrible man will actually do any good. History suggests no.

But maybe this time...
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."