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Started by Jacob, February 16, 2025, 02:00:06 PM

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Legbiter

Britain is going to hurry in Ukrainian experts to the Gulf to help deal with the drone swarms.

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Valmy

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 01, 2026, 04:52:22 PMHow many times do we have to play this old record?  Crowds cheering the fall of Saddam, the fall of Qadaffi.  And then what. What makes it even less optimistic is that there is literally no armed or organized opposition force on the ground, as distinct from the US Army in Iraq and powerful armed militias in Syria and Libya.  There is literally nothing on the ground to take advantage of any regime weakness.

It's just nuts watching these MAGA people spend years lecturing the old Bush neocons on how naive they were to think they could blow stuff up in the Middle East and hope that something magical will happen only to rally around and cheer they same thing all over again, only less organized and thought through.

I think my wake up moment was when they interviewed one of the dudes who ripped down the Saddam statue and was all over the news back in 2003. And he lamented that things were actually better before we overthrew Saddam. Damn we even lost the statue ripping down guy.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Sophie Scholl

Diaspora Persians often have quite different views than on the ground Iranians, too. See also: Cubans.
"Everything that brought you here -- all the things that made you a prisoner of past sins -- they are gone. Forever and for good. So let the past go... and live."

"Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did."

Tamas

Doesn't make them wrong.

Valmy

Quote from: Tamas on March 01, 2026, 06:36:00 PMDoesn't make them wrong.

It is not a question of them being wrong. It is a question as to whether killing this horrible man will actually do any good. History suggests no.

But maybe this time...
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Sheilbh

Incidentally it looks like these strikes have been targeting Basij HQs too which definitely suggests they're hoping for some form of regime change/revolution after this.

Also striking that Iran's retaliation has included strikes on Oman and Qatar who are the most friendly Gulf States - Oman has hosted many of the talks with Iran over the years. Iran's Foreign Minister has said the strike on Oman was not their choice and they have told the armed forces to be careful about the targets they choose. But the armed forces are currently independent, somewhat isolated and acting based on general instructions given to them in advance.
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DGuller

Ahmadinejad is back from the dead for now, according to Wiki.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Jacob on March 01, 2026, 03:06:22 PMYeah, we have a close friend who's Persian. Her response was basically "today I'm getting out the Champagne to celebrate that that asshole is dead! Tomorrow I'll worry about what happens next."

Here is the scene from North Vancouver.

And yes, now the worry is what will happen next.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVWXK1gjuiF/?igsh=MXhpMHBwaTR2eHlncQ==
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Quote from: Sophie Scholl on March 01, 2026, 05:53:40 PMDiaspora Persians often have quite different views than on the ground Iranians, too. See also: Cubans.


What information do you have regarding the views of most Iranians on the ground in Iran?
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crazy canuck

And for context, here are some Iranians on the ground.  Looks similar to the Iranians in North Vancouver.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVUwUASji9w/?igsh=MWNnNXJwc2RkbDhkYw==
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HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: DGuller on March 01, 2026, 08:31:04 PMAhmadinejad is back from the dead for now, according to Wiki.

Ahmadinebackfromthedead?
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Syt

https://apnews.com/article/iran-israel-us-03-02-2026-cb42936de1d8c261be8f30f11c6665fa

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Gulf Arab states have warned that they could retaliate against Iran after strikes that hit key sites and killed at least five civilians, and U.S. President Donald Trump promised Washington would "avenge" the deaths of three American troops who were killed in Kuwait.

"Sadly, there will likely be more before it ends," Trump said. "That's the way it is."


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Trump has urged Iranians to "take over" their government and, while he has also signaled he would be open to dialogue with new leadership there following the death of Khamenei, suggested Sunday there was no end in sight to the military operations.

"Combat operations continue at this time in full-force, and they will continue until all of our objectives are achieved," he said in a video message. "We have very strong objectives," he added, without elaborating.

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So I guess they just asked the military to draw up a list of strategic targets and are now working down the list? I mean, I get it in a "We're tired of their shit and want to cripple them for good" way ... but this is not a video game.
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The Brain

Is the Peace Prize really a strong objective?
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Legbiter

Saudi Aramco refinery was just hit with shahed drones. At this point the asymmetry in cost between 70k drones and Pac-3 missiles (several million per missile) becomes obvious. You need cheap, plentiful radar-guided ack-ack like the Ukrainians employ. :hmm:

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