Quo Vadis, Democrats?

[The Minsky Moment]

Along with Sav, I have difficulty seeing the cultural influence of Quakers in the midwest.  Hell, I have trouble seeing it in Philadelphia.

Philadelphia does have a lot of soul . . .

[Sheilbh]

Sheilbh, what are you reading on this?

Honestly nothing particularly current that's directly on that stuff most relevant recent-ish books that have changed how I think things through and does shape it are probably still Adam Tooze's Crashed and Helen Thompson's Disorder. Plus - specifically on democracy and specifically in a Euro-context, Ruling the Void by Peter Mair.

Aside from that when it comes to non-fiction like everyone here I suspect I read a lot of history Also I'm afraid I'm your nemesis, because I'm the type of sicko who reads and enjoys continental theory, much of it Marxist - so Foucalt, Lyotard, Lukacs, Jameson...I have even dabbled in Derrida

[Admiral Yi]

Eric Adams just dropped out of NYC mayor race.

[Zanza]

If the Democrats do anything to pass a budget they are stupid. They should let the Republicans self destroy over their inability to pass a budget.

[garbon]

If the Democrats do anything to pass a budget they are stupid. They should let the Republicans self destroy over their inability to pass a budget.

I think it depends on the spin that sticks. I fear it will be that the Dems refused to play ball as though it is required of them to acquiesce to Republican plans.

[crazy canuck]

If the Dems are worried about spin st this point all is lost

[grumbler]

If the Dems are worried about spin st this point all is lost

I'd argue that the Democrats' greatest weakness is inability to spin their proposals so that the voter can see how their proposals help the voter and the country.

[garbon]

If the Dems are worried about spin st this point all is lost

I'd argue that the Democrats' greatest weakness is inability to spin their proposals so that the voter can see how their proposals help the voter and the country.

[crazy canuck]

If the Dems are worried about spin st this point all is lost

I'd argue that the Democrats' greatest weakness is inability to spin their proposals so that the voter can see how their proposals help the voter and the country.

I agree with you that was their greatest weakness.  But with the constitutional order collapsing around them that is not now the primary concern.

[Zanza]

I think showing right wing incompetence is a better way to win voters (or make the other side lose voters) than trying to show the merits of complex policy proposals.

[Valmy]

I think showing right wing incompetence is a better way to win voters (or make the other side lose voters) than trying to show the merits of complex policy proposals.

You have to do both, but you have to package the complex policy proposals in something voters understand. Like Hope and Change or whatever.

Though, you know, you have to do them and ensure they have very quick positive results. And make sure everybody knows those positive results.

[Razgovory]

If the Dems are worried about spin st this point all is lost

I'd argue that the Democrats' greatest weakness is inability to spin their proposals so that the voter can see how their proposals help the voter and the country.

I really don't think the problem is spin.

[grumbler]

I think showing right wing incompetence is a better way to win voters (or make the other side lose voters) than trying to show the merits of complex policy proposals.

How's that working out for the Democrats?

[garbon]

I think showing right wing incompetence is a better way to win voters (or make the other side lose voters) than trying to show the merits of complex policy proposals.

How's that working out for the Democrats?

Indeed. Also feels like better to show why you should be in charge than only why the other side shouldn't.

[crazy canuck]

I think showing right wing incompetence is a better way to win voters (or make the other side lose voters) than trying to show the merits of complex policy proposals.

It's cute that you still think American elections are one and lost based on who is competent