The twenty best war movies, according to the Torygraph

Started by Alatriste, July 27, 2009, 07:20:04 AM

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Neil

#150
July 29, 2009, 10:45:13 PM
Now Sink the Bismarck, now there was a war movie.
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CountDeMoney

#151
July 29, 2009, 10:45:22 PM
Quote from: grumbler on July 29, 2009, 10:08:46 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 29, 2009, 09:43:51 PM
Patton.

Still has the worst battle scenes ever filmed.
Nope.  That honor goes to Battle of the Bulge.

Amen.  2nd prize goes to Midway, whose battle scenes weren't even made for the movie but pulled from Tora! Tora! Tora!, for God's sake.  At least Patton's scenes were made for the film.

grumbler

#152
July 29, 2009, 11:07:51 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 29, 2009, 10:45:22 PM
Amen.  2nd prize goes to Midway, whose battle scenes weren't even made for the movie but pulled from Tora! Tora! Tora!, for God's sake.  At least Patton's scenes were made for the film.
The battle scenes are way, way down on the list of things wrong with that movie!  Only Henry Fonda's portrayal of Nimitz didn't suck.
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CountDeMoney

#153
July 30, 2009, 01:47:47 AM
Quote from: grumbler on July 29, 2009, 11:07:51 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 29, 2009, 10:45:22 PM
Amen.  2nd prize goes to Midway, whose battle scenes weren't even made for the movie but pulled from Tora! Tora! Tora!, for God's sake.  At least Patton's scenes were made for the film.
The battle scenes are way, way down on the list of things wrong with that movie!  Only Henry Fonda's portrayal of Nimitz didn't suck.

What, you didn't enjoy the subplot with Chuckles Heston and his future slope daughter-in-law?

Razgovory

#154
July 30, 2009, 02:12:07 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 29, 2009, 10:43:24 PM
Apocalypse Now is an allegory, not a war flick.  War just happened to be the vehicle.

Agree.  Good film, but not in a "War film".
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Fate

#155
July 30, 2009, 03:21:54 AM
Quote from: Siege on July 29, 2009, 06:29:51 PM
I don't remember any movie by that name.

It must be one of those cheap direct-to-DVD movies.

Those ussually suck.
http://www.hbo.com/generationkill/

Generation Kill is a 7 part HBO mini-series detailing a group of Marines from the initial invasion of Iraq to the capture of Baghdad. It's of fairly high quality.

katmai

#156
July 30, 2009, 03:37:20 AM
Quote from: Fate on July 30, 2009, 03:21:54 AM

http://www.hbo.com/generationkill/

Generation Kill is a 7 part HBO mini-series detailing a group of Marines from the initial invasion of Iraq to the capture of Baghdad. It's of fairly high quality.

It didn't air on Disney channel so Seige would never have heard of it.
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Razgovory

#157
July 30, 2009, 04:05:26 AM
Quote from: Armyknife on July 29, 2009, 10:24:18 PM
Quote from: grumbler on July 29, 2009, 10:08:46 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 29, 2009, 09:43:51 PM
Patton.

Still has the worst battle scenes ever filmed.
Nope.  That honor goes to Battle of the Bulge.

Didn't the M47s in both of those films see more 'action' than the tanks did in real life ?

I dunno, the M47 saw alot of action in the middle east and in the Pakistan-Indian war.  I think they saw some action in Korea.   Also against Godzilla.
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Eddie Teach

#158
July 30, 2009, 04:13:03 AM
Though I haven't seen Jarhead, I'll go with Patton to keep this thing moving(was 6-0 by my count). I'll put up Glory against Schindler's List. Mainly because Schindler isn't a war movie(and if we counted all the great movies about the periphery of wartime, the list would look completely different).
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Razgovory

#159
July 30, 2009, 06:43:46 AM
What about The Battle of Algiers?  Banned in France.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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grumbler

#160
July 30, 2009, 07:03:19 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 30, 2009, 04:13:03 AM
Though I haven't seen Jarhead, I'll go with Patton to keep this thing moving(was 6-0 by my count). I'll put up Glory against Schindler's List. Mainly because Schindler isn't a war movie(and if we counted all the great movies about the periphery of wartime, the list would look completely different).
Agreed, and +1 for Glory.
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Josephus

#161
July 30, 2009, 07:16:57 AM
If you need another one, I'm in. Patton over Jarhead
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Alatriste

#162
July 30, 2009, 07:29:19 AM
Null vote. I haven't watched Jarhead, I will add it to my to-watch list, and can't decide between Schindler's List and Glory, both are great - and IMHO Schindler's List is a war movie... otherwise The Great Escape isn't a war movie, for example.

Neil

#163
July 30, 2009, 07:46:45 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on July 30, 2009, 07:29:19 AM
Null vote. I haven't watched Jarhead, I will add it to my to-watch list, and can't decide between Schindler's List and Glory, both are great - and IMHO Schindler's List is a war movie... otherwise The Great Escape isn't a war movie, for example.
A story about POWs escaping from prison camp isn't quite the same as a story about a German guy nonviolently helping Jews escape the Holocaust through deception and bribery.
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Josephus

#164
July 30, 2009, 08:17:54 AM
It's a tough call on Schindler's List; but really it's a film that takes place during the war about something that wouldn't have happened had it not been for the war. But is it a war movie? Is http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094331/ Wish You Were Here a war movie? Is Life Is Beautiful a War Movie?

The Great Escape is interesting for the purpose of this discussion. It's about soldiers. It's about prisoners of War. Is it a war film? Good question.

Maybe we need to come up with a definition first. I know we have a few lawyers here.
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