Greedy Billionaires Not Named Elon Megathread

Started by Josquius, December 10, 2024, 04:46:51 PM

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Syt

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/07/how-much-money-you-need-to-be-in-the-richest-10-percent-worldwide.html

QuoteTo be among the global top 10 percent, you may not need as much money as you think. According to the 2018 Global Wealth Report from Credit Suisse Research Institute, you don't even need six figures.

A net worth of $93,170 U.S. is enough to make you richer than 90 percent of people around the world, Credit Suisse reports. The institute defines net worth, or "wealth," as "the value of financial assets plus real assets (principally housing) owned by households, minus their debts."

More than 102 million people in America are in the 10 percent worldwide, Credit Suisse reports, far more than from any other country.


You need significantly less to be among the global 50 percent: If you have just $4,210 to your name, you're still richer than half of the world's residents. And it takes a net worth of $871,320 to join the global 1 percent. More than 19 million Americans qualify, Credit Suisse reports.

These numbers reflect the extreme level of persistent wealth inequality. As Credit Suisse puts it, "While the bottom half of adults collectively owns less than 1 percent of total wealth, the richest decile (top 10 percent of adults) owns 85 percent of global wealth, and the top percentile alone accounts for almost half of all household wealth (47 percent)."


Pre-pandemic, obvs.
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Razgovory

Quote from: crazy canuck on December 12, 2024, 07:22:04 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 12, 2024, 12:51:42 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 11, 2024, 11:18:26 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 11, 2024, 08:58:01 PMI'm reading a book on the elites in this country, and their ideology.  Talking about the top 1% is a bit of an obfuscation.  They are elites, but not the only ones.  In fact, a lot of them on are on this board as we speak...

I am pretty sure a lot of of the American one percent is not on this board as we speak
What about the top quintile?

How many Americans on this board do you think are in the top quintile?

You made the claim that a lot of the American elite are on this board? My comment was more of a joke, but come on, if you want to take it seriously not a lot of American elites are here. There just isn't a lot of Americans here compared to the population of the United States.  There isn't a lot of people here in general.  :P

No, I meant that a lot of the board falls into the elite category.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Josquius

Our demographics are more lawyer heavy than the general population yes.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Razgovory on December 12, 2024, 08:59:39 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 12, 2024, 07:22:04 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 12, 2024, 12:51:42 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 11, 2024, 11:18:26 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 11, 2024, 08:58:01 PMI'm reading a book on the elites in this country, and their ideology.  Talking about the top 1% is a bit of an obfuscation.  They are elites, but not the only ones.  In fact, a lot of them on are on this board as we speak...

I am pretty sure a lot of of the American one percent is not on this board as we speak
What about the top quintile?

How many Americans on this board do you think are in the top quintile?

You made the claim that a lot of the American elite are on this board? My comment was more of a joke, but come on, if you want to take it seriously not a lot of American elites are here. There just isn't a lot of Americans here compared to the population of the United States.  There isn't a lot of people here in general.  :P

No, I meant that a lot of the board falls into the elite category.

My apologies

crazy canuck

Quote from: Syt on December 12, 2024, 07:42:25 AMhttps://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/07/how-much-money-you-need-to-be-in-the-richest-10-percent-worldwide.html

QuoteTo be among the global top 10 percent, you may not need as much money as you think. According to the 2018 Global Wealth Report from Credit Suisse Research Institute, you don't even need six figures.

A net worth of $93,170 U.S. is enough to make you richer than 90 percent of people around the world, Credit Suisse reports. The institute defines net worth, or "wealth," as "the value of financial assets plus real assets (principally housing) owned by households, minus their debts."

More than 102 million people in America are in the 10 percent worldwide, Credit Suisse reports, far more than from any other country.


You need significantly less to be among the global 50 percent: If you have just $4,210 to your name, you're still richer than half of the world's residents. And it takes a net worth of $871,320 to join the global 1 percent. More than 19 million Americans qualify, Credit Suisse reports.

These numbers reflect the extreme level of persistent wealth inequality. As Credit Suisse puts it, "While the bottom half of adults collectively owns less than 1 percent of total wealth, the richest decile (top 10 percent of adults) owns 85 percent of global wealth, and the top percentile alone accounts for almost half of all household wealth (47 percent)."


Pre-pandemic, obvs.

Net worth isn't really a very good indicator of wealth ironically.

The reason for that is a lot of people have an inflated net worth simply because the house they bought has increased significantly in value. But many of those same people are still struggling financially to pay their mortgage and the cost of living.

Measuring wealth is your keeping to do because the truly wealthy don't actually have an income that can be taxable. Rather, they live basically tax-free by sophisticated instruments averaged against their shareholdings.


crazy canuck

Quote from: Josquius on December 12, 2024, 10:02:48 AMOur demographics are more lawyer heavy than the general population yes.

Not really, the vast majority of the people who are here are not lawyers.


Sheilbh

Quote from: crazy canuck on December 12, 2024, 10:16:15 AMNot really, the vast majority of the people who are here are not lawyers.
But an even vaster majority of the general population are not lawyers :P
Let's bomb Russia!

Razgovory

Quote from: crazy canuck on December 12, 2024, 10:11:47 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 12, 2024, 08:59:39 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 12, 2024, 07:22:04 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 12, 2024, 12:51:42 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 11, 2024, 11:18:26 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 11, 2024, 08:58:01 PMI'm reading a book on the elites in this country, and their ideology.  Talking about the top 1% is a bit of an obfuscation.  They are elites, but not the only ones.  In fact, a lot of them on are on this board as we speak...

I am pretty sure a lot of of the American one percent is not on this board as we speak
What about the top quintile?

How many Americans on this board do you think are in the top quintile?

You made the claim that a lot of the American elite are on this board? My comment was more of a joke, but come on, if you want to take it seriously not a lot of American elites are here. There just isn't a lot of Americans here compared to the population of the United States.  There isn't a lot of people here in general.  :P

No, I meant that a lot of the board falls into the elite category.

My apologies
No prob.  I still love you.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Tamas

Quote from: crazy canuck on December 12, 2024, 10:16:15 AM
Quote from: Josquius on December 12, 2024, 10:02:48 AMOur demographics are more lawyer heavy than the general population yes.

Not really, the vast majority of the people who are here are not lawyers.



Out of the regular posters left, we have like 3 lawyers and 3 non-lawyers. :P

Norgy

So, now this killer is something of eye candy for women, it seems.
"I can change him".  :rolleyes:

The number of reasons for just staying a single, bitter old man are just piling up.

First rule of political change in a better direction: Don't shoot people.

garbon

Quote from: Norgy on December 12, 2024, 12:02:09 PMSo, now this killer is something of eye candy for women, it seems.
"I can change him".  :rolleyes:

The number of reasons for just staying a single, bitter old man are just piling up.

First rule of political change in a better direction: Don't shoot people.


I think you are making the mistake I've seen guardian writers making on this topic, reading too much into meme posts about the killer.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Tamas on December 12, 2024, 11:10:13 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 12, 2024, 10:16:15 AM
Quote from: Josquius on December 12, 2024, 10:02:48 AMOur demographics are more lawyer heavy than the general population yes.

Not really, the vast majority of the people who are here are not lawyers.



Out of the regular posters left, we have like 3 lawyers and 3 non-lawyers. :P

 :D

Norgy

Quote from: garbon on December 12, 2024, 12:18:23 PM
Quote from: Norgy on December 12, 2024, 12:02:09 PMSo, now this killer is something of eye candy for women, it seems.
"I can change him".  :rolleyes:

The number of reasons for just staying a single, bitter old man are just piling up.

First rule of political change in a better direction: Don't shoot people.


I think you are making the mistake I've seen guardian writers making on this topic, reading too much into meme posts about the killer.

I am hardly a great authority on pop culture, so you are probably right.
And The Guardian is, well, The Guardian still, for better or worse.
I think I learned at some impromptu course at work that they have more people working on content marketing than actual journalists these days. Which sums up my line of work well.

Still, the killer has killer abs.

Valmy

Quote from: Razgovory on December 11, 2024, 08:58:01 PMI'm reading a book on the elites in this country, and their ideology.  Talking about the top 1% is a bit of an obfuscation.  They are elites, but not the only ones.  In fact, a lot of them on are on this board as we speak...

I don't think you just need some money to be an elite. It requires access to institutional power. That may or may not be people on this board, but just owning a house in an expensive place doesn't make you a national level elite.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: Norgy on December 12, 2024, 12:02:09 PMSo, now this killer is something of eye candy for women, it seems.
"I can change him".  :rolleyes:

The number of reasons for just staying a single, bitter old man are just piling up.

First rule of political change in a better direction: Don't shoot people.


Ok first plenty of men have also thirsted for this guy.

Secondly these are Americans, we think shooting people is cool.

I don't think this applies to Norwegian women.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."