Greedy Billionaires Not Named Elon Megathread

Started by Josquius, December 10, 2024, 04:46:51 PM

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Syt

Isn't it a common phenomenon that some folks are drawn to "dangerous boys" or "dangerous girls"? Plenty stories of murderers in jail getting "fan mail" or getting hitched with a fan.

Here's Charles Manson and his then 26-year-old wife in 2014:

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
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Norgy

Don't think Fritzl's getting much fan mail anymore. Well. That he can read and remember at least.

garbon

Quote from: Syt on December 13, 2024, 08:09:06 AMIsn't it a common phenomenon that some folks are drawn to "dangerous boys" or "dangerous girls"? Plenty stories of murderers in jail getting "fan mail" or getting hitched with a fan.

Here's Charles Manson and his then 26-year-old wife in 2014:



How are you defining common?
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Syt

Maybe better to phrase it: "oft reported" though maybe not overly common.
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—Stephen Jay Gould

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garbon

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/13/florida-woman-health-insurance-threat
QuoteA Florida woman has been arrested and charged after allegedly using the same language associated with the suspect in the murder of a top health insurance executive while on a phone call with her healthcare firm.

Briana Boston, 42, had just had a medical claim denied and was talking on a phone call with a representative from Blue Cross Blue Shield. The Lakeland resident then allegedly said: "Delay, deny, depose. You people are next."
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

HVC

Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Sheilbh

#111
Mangione moved to New York today and was then escorted, publicly, with a huge team of people in various sorts of uniform holding all sorts of guns - and even the mayor was there:


It feels like everyone almost deliberately performing a scene in a film (not to get all Baudrillard but did America make Hollywood or vice versa) in ways that I'm not sure is necessarily sending the message it's intended to.

If you're concerned about sympathy for this guy, which I would understand, I'm not really sure that posing him like a comic book villain is necessarily helpful. It seems very, very weird.

Edit: Also Mangione is not a mass shooter, but I can't help but think of this Charlie Brooker piece on mass shooters. Especially the last bit from 1.45:
Let's bomb Russia!

Grey Fox

They are going to have such a hard time finding a jury for this.
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Syt

Quote from: Grey Fox on December 19, 2024, 10:43:08 PMThey are going to have such a hard time finding a jury for this.

Plus, the insurance companies probably won't want him using the trial as a pulpit. Maybe they get lucky and he meets an unfortunate accident or suddenly hangs himself. :P  :tinfoil:
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—Stephen Jay Gould

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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Sheilbh on December 19, 2024, 09:03:24 PMEdit: Also Mangione is not a mass shooter, but I can't help but think of this Charlie Brooker piece on mass shooters. Especially the last bit from 1.45:


"Make it as boring as possible" is not advice likely to be followed by rabidly competitive, ratings-starved media outlets.
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HVC

Quote from: Syt on December 20, 2024, 12:45:50 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 19, 2024, 10:43:08 PMThey are going to have such a hard time finding a jury for this.

Plus, the insurance companies probably won't want him using the trial as a pulpit. Maybe they get lucky and he meets an unfortunate accident or suddenly hangs himself. :P  :tinfoil:

If he wanted to end on another FU he should put out a "I'm not suicidal" statement and then off himself :ph34r:. I mean, he killed a rich dude, he's not leaving prison in anything but a body bag, either now or in fifty years.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Tamas

Quote from: Sheilbh on December 19, 2024, 09:03:24 PMMangione moved to New York today and was then escorted, publicly, with a huge team of people in various sorts of uniform holding all sorts of guns - and even the mayor was there:


It feels like everyone almost deliberately performing a scene in a film (not to get all Baudrillard but did America make Hollywood or vice versa) in ways that I'm not sure is necessarily sending the message it's intended to.

If you're concerned about sympathy for this guy, which I would understand, I'm not really sure that posing him like a comic book villain is necessarily helpful. It seems very, very weird.


Rich and powerful people are still just people, if something truly scares them they are bound to make mistakes.

Josquius

I have seen many likening this photo of him being lead away to being like they just caught the joker.
Really does seem like they want copycats.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 20, 2024, 02:28:29 AM"Make it as boring as possible" is not advice likely to be followed by rabidly competitive, ratings-starved media outlets.
I know - but I think that does have a bodycount. Although in this case it's not even the media you'd blame - it's the NYPD and the Mayor deciding to make it a maximum show for some reason. Maybe I'm wrong and it is normal for criminals from other states to be brought in on a helicopter with 20 heavily armed NYPD people around them and the Mayor there for some reason.
Let's bomb Russia!

celedhring

I suppose the NYPD can make the case that given Mangione's notoriety and how the murder has been celebrated online they wanted to dissuade possible rioters.