Greedy Billionaires Not Named Elon Megathread

Started by Josquius, December 10, 2024, 04:46:51 PM

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Norgy

Quote from: Valmy on December 12, 2024, 12:48:20 PMI don't think this applies to Norwegian women.

If it wasn't for the clause in Norwegian criminal law that the state can deny letters and phones to inmates, I am pretty sure the Utøya massacre bloke Breivik would get a lot of attention from Norwegian women.

But now I am just being a misogynist. And I shouldn't be.

I've seen this, what can I say, rather short manifesto of this killer quoted. Not a great writer.

Josquius

There definitely is a subset of women really into the whole true crime thing and very bad boys in prison.
Far from all women but a notable enough number to regard it as a real phenomena.
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crazy canuck

ok, I need a translation.  Does thirsty mean that people like his looks?

Norgy


crazy canuck

Quote from: Valmy on December 12, 2024, 12:45:15 PMI don't think you just need some money to be an elite. It requires access to institutional power. That may or may not be people on this board, but just owning a house in an expensive place doesn't make you a national level elite.

I think its a bit of the other way around, one can have access to institutional power without being wealthy. 

Judging from the personal stories of people here over the years, Raz is correct in saying there have been a disproportionate number of folks who would fit that description.


garbon

Quote from: crazy canuck on December 12, 2024, 01:03:43 PMok, I need a translation.  Does thirsty mean that people like his looks?

Like a tall drink of water.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Valmy on December 12, 2024, 12:45:15 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 11, 2024, 08:58:01 PMI'm reading a book on the elites in this country, and their ideology.  Talking about the top 1% is a bit of an obfuscation.  They are elites, but not the only ones.  In fact, a lot of them on are on this board as we speak...

I don't think you just need some money to be an elite. It requires access to institutional power. That may or may not be people on this board, but just owning a house in an expensive place doesn't make you a national level elite.
When I finish the book I'll create a thread on this, but in short people in the knowledge economy, the professional-managerial class, or the creative class are elites.  They aren't the only ones of course, but they are elites.  I'm beginning to suspect that when Trump supporters talk about fighting the "elites", this is who they are talking about.  They may never meet a billionaire, but they do come into contact with lawyers, doctors, programmers, engineers, etc.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Josquius on December 12, 2024, 12:59:18 PMThere definitely is a subset of women really into the whole true crime thing and very bad boys in prison.
Far from all women but a notable enough number to regard it as a real phenomena.
I mean we don't need to overanalyse this - he's also just good looking :lol:
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Josquius

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Quote from: Razgovory on December 12, 2024, 02:05:04 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 12, 2024, 12:45:15 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 11, 2024, 08:58:01 PMI'm reading a book on the elites in this country, and their ideology.  Talking about the top 1% is a bit of an obfuscation.  They are elites, but not the only ones.  In fact, a lot of them on are on this board as we speak...

I don't think you just need some money to be an elite. It requires access to institutional power. That may or may not be people on this board, but just owning a house in an expensive place doesn't make you a national level elite.
When I finish the book I'll create a thread on this, but in short people in the knowledge economy, the professional-managerial class, or the creative class are elites. 

It would be lovely if it were true. But no.

QuoteThey aren't the only ones of course, but they are elites.  I'm beginning to suspect that when Trump supporters talk about fighting the "elites", this is who they are talking about.  They may never meet a billionaire, but they do come into contact with lawyers, doctors, programmers, engineers, etc.

I would say its key to populist right wing bollocks that many working class people DON'T meet people in these good but attainable jobs.
If you want to get work in those areas you usually have to move to a select few big cities - places where the working class is also less likely to fall for trump nonsense
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Barrister

Quote from: Josquius on December 12, 2024, 02:56:07 PMI would say its key to populist right wing bollocks that many working class people DON'T meet people in these good but attainable jobs.
If you want to get work in those areas you usually have to move to a select few big cities - places where the working class is also less likely to fall for trump nonsense

I know anecdotes are not the same as data, but my brother, my in-laws, the guys I play hockey with (except for the guy I recruited from work) - I don't think any of them have university degrees, never mind law degrees.

Maybe it's just a Canada thing, but I don't think the world is that segregated.
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HVC

Quote from: Barrister on December 12, 2024, 03:05:15 PM
Quote from: Josquius on December 12, 2024, 02:56:07 PMI would say its key to populist right wing bollocks that many working class people DON'T meet people in these good but attainable jobs.
If you want to get work in those areas you usually have to move to a select few big cities - places where the working class is also less likely to fall for trump nonsense

I know anecdotes are not the same as data, but my brother, my in-laws, the guys I play hockey with (except for the guy I recruited from work) - I don't think any of them have university degrees, never mind law degrees.

Maybe it's just a Canada thing, but I don't think the world is that segregated.

If you're the only one with a degree in your peer group maybe you're just slumming it :P

While not as segregated as super rich and poor, I do still see some segregation. I mean how many barristas or day laborers do you hang out with?
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DGuller

I think when people think of elites, they think of people that make them feel inferior, a lower class of people.  That's why an average Joe may regard a humanities professor lecturing them on pronouns as an elite, but not a billionaire validating all their ugly thoughts.  That may be the case even though the humanities professor had ramen noodles for dinner while the billionaire had a well-done steak with A1 sauce.