Israel-Hamas War 2023

[Tamas]

From what I've seen it's a supply chain attack, i.e. somewhere along the supply line the pagers were prepped to explode and/or had explosives added on their way to the Hezbollah. Either a middleman on the way, or a shipment intercepted and tampered with before sending it on its way again.

Yeah, that's what they said on the BBC, makes sense- the idea pagers could grow so dangerously hot as to explode....Even with smartphones I don't think you'd be talking that level of danger. Somewhere along the line a small amount of explosives was planted in them.

So if they can ensure that none of the hundreds of pagers are in pockets of non-Hezbollah at the time of explosion, are you ok with this action?

I'm not sure why you're asking this.
If you could ensure an attack was targeted thus that only people who are part of an active militant group launching attacks on civilian areas are killed then that's the perfect situation. Absolute dream.

I was asking because you wrote "But yes. It does sound quite indiscriminate. Knowing Israel I expect they weren't too careful about who was on the list."

And I was flabbergasted of how much further you could get from "indiscriminate" than targeting pagers used by the enemy organisation. Not even Hezbollah or Lebanon claimed that pagers in general were exploded across the country.

[The Minsky Moment]

How does a pager explode?

Its dream is deferred.

[Legbiter]

So today it's been walkie-talkies and different pagers blowing up. Hezbollah supply chain seems totally compromised.

[Razgovory]

Rashida Talib is very upset.

[Admiral Yi]

3,000 pagers exploded.

[Valmy]

How is this still happening? Is Hezbollah still using these things?

[Razgovory]

[The Minsky Moment]

How is this still happening? Is Hezbollah still using these things?

They didn't get the page to stop.

[Habbaku]

Seeing it described by one wag as "Operation Grim Beeper" and I am dead.

[Admiral Yi]

Don't Fear the Beeper

[Oexmelin]

If Hamas or Hezbollah had used a similar tactic, something tells me people wouldn't be finding the move so awesome.

[Josquius]

From what I've seen it's a supply chain attack, i.e. somewhere along the supply line the pagers were prepped to explode and/or had explosives added on their way to the Hezbollah. Either a middleman on the way, or a shipment intercepted and tampered with before sending it on its way again.

Yeah, that's what they said on the BBC, makes sense- the idea pagers could grow so dangerously hot as to explode....Even with smartphones I don't think you'd be talking that level of danger. Somewhere along the line a small amount of explosives was planted in them.

So if they can ensure that none of the hundreds of pagers are in pockets of non-Hezbollah at the time of explosion, are you ok with this action?

I'm not sure why you're asking this.
If you could ensure an attack was targeted thus that only people who are part of an active militant group launching attacks on civilian areas are killed then that's the perfect situation. Absolute dream.

I was asking because you wrote "But yes. It does sound quite indiscriminate. Knowing Israel I expect they weren't too careful about who was on the list."

And I was flabbergasted of how much further you could get from "indiscriminate" than targeting pagers used by the enemy organisation. Not even Hezbollah or Lebanon claimed that pagers in general were exploded across the country.

The news is suggesting kids were amongst the dead.

[Threviel]

If Hamas or Hezbollah had used a similar tactic, something tells me people wouldn't be finding the move so awesome.

If they, for once, did a surgical targeted attack in IDF personnel and Israeli decision makers then that would be entirely legitimate and a huge WTF moment. Netanyahu getting an involuntary gender correction would probably illicit at least a smile.

[Razgovory]

If Hamas or Hezbollah had used a similar tactic, something tells me people wouldn't be finding the move so awesome.

Sickening isn't it?  There are people on this board who if given a button to blow the balls off every member of the SS in 1942 would actually press it.

[Tamas]

If Hamas or Hezbollah had used a similar tactic, something tells me people wouldn't be finding the move so awesome.

If they, for once, did a surgical targeted attack in IDF personnel and Israeli decision makers then that would be entirely legitimate and a huge WTF moment. Netanyahu getting an involuntary gender correction would probably illicit at least a smile.

Yeah I would not be happy about them scoring such a win but I would grudginly accept they spent a lot of effort to specificky target enemy combatants, a massive improvement over the randomly lobbed rockets they have been firing almost daily since 7 October (source: The Guardian).

The rocketing BTW has triggered exactly zero of similar humanitarian complaints about risking children's lives.