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Started by Zanza, October 07, 2023, 04:56:14 AM

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Jacob

#5880
July 16, 2025, 12:43:39 PM
Was a specific reason given for the explosion? And to what degree is Israel at war with Syria at this point?

(Not a rhetorical question, I haven't been following the region recently)

crazy canuck

#5881
July 16, 2025, 01:24:14 PM
Quote from: Jacob on July 16, 2025, 12:43:39 PMWas a specific reason given for the explosion? And to what degree is Israel at war with Syria at this point?

(Not a rhetorical question, I haven't been following the region recently)


Official reason - support of the Druze.

Real reason - Keep Syria destabilized as much as possible.
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viper37

#5882
July 16, 2025, 02:36:26 PM
Quote from: Jacob on July 16, 2025, 12:43:39 PMWas a specific reason given for the explosion? And to what degree is Israel at war with Syria at this point?

(Not a rhetorical question, I haven't been following the region recently)
The Syrian govt has been killing Druze civilians in the south, near the Israeli border.

The Druze minority is largely pro-sionist, has their own unit and elite unit in the IDF and form a political elite in Israeli society.

It shows support for an important minority in Israeli society, while at the same time, like CC says, destabilizing a neighbor and keeping Israel in a state of conflict so that Bibi can still cling to power.

But, they are still saving civilians from a massacre by muslim extremists.

If these were other Muslims, like in the previous Syrian civil war, they wouldn't move an inch from their border and would not accept any refugees.
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Josquius

#5883
July 16, 2025, 02:55:25 PM
More than that the really painful bit is that Israel is occupying a chunk of Southern Syria and the Syrian Government tried to send some military units there to stop inter ethnic violence.
Blaming the Govenrment for the threat to the druze seems rather off.
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Razgovory

#5884
July 16, 2025, 03:22:52 PM
Quote from: Josquius on July 16, 2025, 02:55:25 PMMore than that the really painful bit is that Israel is occupying a chunk of Southern Syria and the Syrian Government tried to send some military units there to stop inter ethnic violence.
Blaming the Govenrment for the threat to the druze seems rather off.
Well the Druze and the Syrian government just agreed to a cease fire.  Something like 1,000 Israeli Druze crossed the bordered to protect their coreligionists.  Unlike CC, they seemed to have been disturbed by reports of extrajudicial killings.
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crazy canuck

#5885
July 16, 2025, 05:06:28 PM
I am the one unconcerned by extrajudicial killings? 
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Zoupa

#5886
July 16, 2025, 07:26:56 PM
It's weird how NOW Israel cares about Syrian civilians  :lol:  The 15 years of Assad killing civilians, I guess the IDF was busy.

HVC

#5887
July 16, 2025, 07:31:57 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on July 16, 2025, 07:26:56 PMIt's weird how NOW Israel cares about Syrian civilians  :lol:  The 15 years of Assad killing civilians, I guess the IDF was busy.

The IDF was busy killing another group of civilians :yes:
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Razgovory

#5888
July 16, 2025, 09:18:25 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on July 16, 2025, 07:26:56 PMIt's weird how NOW Israel cares about Syrian civilians  :lol:  The 15 years of Assad killing civilians, I guess the IDF was busy.
Yeah, cause Israel never intervened in the Syrian civil war. :rolleyes:



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I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Zoupa

#5889
July 16, 2025, 09:47:07 PM

I'm sure the civilians are way safer now that the defense ministry was bombed, in the middle of the day, with probably the busiest roundabout in Damas next to it.

Razgovory

#5890
July 16, 2025, 09:56:16 PM
They agreed to a ceasefire didn't they?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

viper37

#5891
July 16, 2025, 10:09:05 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 16, 2025, 09:56:16 PMThey agreed to a ceasefire didn't they?
Israel always abide by their ceasire agreement as much as the US abide by their commercial treaties.  :)
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Zoupa

#5892
July 16, 2025, 11:02:23 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 16, 2025, 09:56:16 PMThey agreed to a ceasefire didn't they?

Who did?

Razgovory

#5893
July 17, 2025, 01:27:09 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on July 16, 2025, 11:02:23 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 16, 2025, 09:56:16 PMThey agreed to a ceasefire didn't they?

Who did?
Syrian government and the Druze.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Zoupa

#5894
July 17, 2025, 02:15:56 AM
What does that have to do with Israel?
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