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Started by Faeelin, July 24, 2009, 08:04:42 AM

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Valmy

Quote from: derspiess on July 24, 2009, 11:13:58 AM
I'm not sure how much Romney or Jindal could do for the GOP in 2010 :huh:

Well hopefully a Republican will rise from the ranks and use the power of the Matrix to light their darkest hour.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

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derspiess

FWIW, I'm liking Romney more & more these days  :ph34r:
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Fate

Quote from: Faeelin on July 24, 2009, 11:14:52 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on July 24, 2009, 08:21:47 AM
Don't sell healthcare too short. I don't see how democrats will be able to look voters in the eye if nothing passes.

In theory I agree with you, but is passing a messy compromise that results in significantly more spending with no real changes really going to be possible?

Not to mention that Baucas is among those who are vehemently opposed to reform...
There's always reconciliation, where they'd only need 50 Senators to pass the bill and it can't be filibustered.

Caliga

@ Valmy
:mad:

I like Mormon world myth better.  They think God assumed a bodily form (the so-called 'Godhead') and physically impregnated Mary.  That's HOTT.  Also, they think Jesus and Satan are brothers.  I imagine to the Mormons they resemble a good-evil version of Xamot and Tomax from the Crimson Guard.  :cool:
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Caliga

Quote from: derspiess on July 24, 2009, 11:15:44 AM
FWIW, I'm liking Romney more & more these days  :ph34r:
Princesca reports that he's a great guy in person.
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Valmy

Quote from: Caliga on July 24, 2009, 11:17:33 AM
I imagine to the Mormons they resemble a good-evil version of Xamot and Tomax from the Crimson Guard.  :cool:

So everytime I hurt Satan, Jesus feels his pain?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: Caliga on July 24, 2009, 11:18:19 AM
Princesca reports that he's a great guy in person.

So was Gaius Marius and we saw how that turned out.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Caliga

Quote from: Valmy on July 24, 2009, 11:21:41 AMSo everytime I hurt Satan, Jesus feels his pain?
:yes:

Also, if you're a good Mormon, when you die you get your own planet to rule over! :w00t:
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Valmy

Quote from: Caliga on July 24, 2009, 11:22:44 AM
Also, if you're a good Mormon, when you die you get your own planet to rule over! :w00t:

This is sounding more like Scientology all the time.

I wonder what Harry Reid's planet will look like.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

alfred russel

Quote from: Faeelin on July 24, 2009, 11:15:36 AM
Quote from: Caliga on July 24, 2009, 11:14:00 AM
Romney is likely to figure out a way to marginalize his Mormonism to the general public, or rebrand it as some sort of evangelical bond with the crazy Southern Baptist bloc that he will definitely need in his pocket.  It won't be easy, since Southern Baptists think Mormons are EV0L.

Course, a guy who supports universal health care much like Obama's plan and attended gay pride parades may not be the sort to mobilize the base, if you know what I mean.

The guy is as politically unprincipled as they come. I won't be suprised if he gets the nomination and turns into Obama lite by election day.
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Caliga

Also, after you die, you remain married to your spouse FOR ALL ETERNITY :w00t:

... er, wait.... :ph34r:
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Caliga

Quote from: alfred russel on July 24, 2009, 11:24:27 AM
The guy is as politically unprincipled as they come. I won't be suprised if he gets the nomination and turns into Obama lite by election day.
:yes: He'll say and do anything to get elected.  IOW, he's very electable.

When he was governor of Mass., he thought abortions were just fine and dandy.
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saskganesh

Quote from: Valmy on July 24, 2009, 10:35:20 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on July 24, 2009, 10:31:53 AM
my impression is that the opposition is weak, lacks focus and leadership. individual candidates from GOP will get elected on a reeactive "mad as hell and not going to take it anymore" ticket, but that's normal, especially in a struggling economy.

The GOP is very reactionary of late but then that is pretty common for the opposition party.  That usually is enough to get a party back in office.

just referencing the Canadian political experience, the mad as hell Reform party got established with a sizable rump, but got not break through as government until they reinvented their party Twice. In the meantime, we had successive Liberal governments. for almost 15 years.

IMO, Radicals, including populists and reactionaries, usually don't get elected. Do you think the Republican electoral success until Clinton in the mid 90's was the rule or the exception?

I think its an exception and the GOP is dominated by loudmouths who have smaller constituencies then first glance would suggest.
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KRonn

Quote from: derspiess on July 24, 2009, 11:13:58 AM
I'm not sure how much Romney or Jindal could do for the GOP in 2010 :huh:
Given the calamity the Dems and Obama admin seem to be rushing to commit on the US budget, taxes, economy, take over or nationalizing  of businesses, and various and sundry other big govt stuff, it won't be all that long that the politicos will be lamenting the demise of the Dem party, same as they were doing the same for the Repubs.    ;) 

Already many Dems are fearful, pushing back on health care and other stuff;  Cap and Trade just barely passed in the House, and it's not likely to pass the Senate. The worm is slowly turning, and no surprise. Happens every time one of our esteemed political parties gains too much power, as they go hog wild. Then again, the Congress needs more rules to ensure that the minority parties have enough say and control. Been saying that since probably Gingrich took over the Congress and ran the Repubs into the ground.

DGuller

Quote from: Caliga on July 24, 2009, 11:26:06 AM
:yes: He'll say and do anything to get elected.  IOW, he's very electable.
I disagree.  Pandering is an advantage only if you can do it smoothly.  You're not being too smooth at it if pandering is synonymous with your name, which is Romney's situation.