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Started by Admiral Yi, July 22, 2009, 03:15:40 PM

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Viking

Quote from: Razgovory on May 09, 2013, 10:18:21 AM
None, since the word "unambiguously" is used, there is probably someone, somewhere who claims they aren't a real christian.

which is why I'm using wikipedia as the arbiter and the word unambiguously. Which is the first american president which was clearly a trinitarian christian? viz. never spent significant parts of his life as a deist, unitarian or non-practicing.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Razgovory

That's a strange definition.  I suppose it's a good one for your purposes though.  By that definition George W. Bush wouldn't be considered a trinitarian Christian
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017


The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Viking

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 09, 2013, 11:05:51 AM
Wilson?

No, I'm pretty sure that a few of the 19th century presidents were christians.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

AnchorClanker

Washington was Episcopalian - who are Trinitarians... Adams was Unitarian... I'd go with Washington, unless there's some weird disqualifier in there... if the question is actually "Trinitarian" as opposed to 'lifelong and devout' - it's Washington.
The final wisdom of life requires not the annulment of incongruity but the achievement of serenity within and above it.  - Reinhold Niebuhr

Viking

Quote from: AnchorClanker on May 09, 2013, 03:04:02 PM
Washington was Episcopalian - who are Trinitarians... Adams was Unitarian... I'd go with Washington, unless there's some weird disqualifier in there... if the question is actually "Trinitarian" as opposed to 'lifelong and devout' - it's Washington.

This is why I used the qualifier "unambiguously". Washington's iconic status meant that everybody wanted a piece of him. The Baptists claim he was baptised at valley forge, the episcopalian minister in philadelphia asserted that Washington was a deist strangely enough.

It is quite possible that he cultivated the ambiguity due to his appreciation of his own iconic stature. He was nominally an episcopalian but his religion is sufficiently ambiguous that his wikipage lists both deism and episcopalianism as his religion that that was the arbiter I choose. Listing both means it was ambiguous.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

AnchorClanker

James Garfield was notably devout...
The final wisdom of life requires not the annulment of incongruity but the achievement of serenity within and above it.  - Reinhold Niebuhr

Viking

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 09, 2013, 03:25:09 PM
Jackson?

Yes, Andrew Jackson was the first explicitly Christian president. While he wasn't a notable paragon of christian values, he was a Presbyterian. It took getting to the generation after the founders before a US president was willing to explicitly declare himself a Christian.

First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Admiral Yi


Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Viking

I'll grab it again...

What was Ulysses S. Grant's given middle name?
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017