Refractory Gauls, or the French politics thread

[Duque de Bragança]

Worse then NA?

Off-topic.  Though Macron is probably a toxic person to work with. 

I mean he is a politician lol

Obviously, and a particularly toxic one.

[Grey Fox]

Worse then NA?

Yes, by many miles. Like mentioned, they have a highly hierarchical workplace and a Japanese-like expectation of boss-employee relationship.

[Josquius]

Sure reflects my experiences of the francophone Swiss.
Even the simplest of mails need max formality. It's weird.

Will also explain a lot of Frances by choice youth unemployment.

[Duque de Bragança]

Worse then NA?

Yes, by many miles. Like mentioned, they have a highly hierarchical workplace and a Japanese-like expectation of boss-employee relationship.

Having bossed for the Japanese in Germany, I beg to differ. 

My father certainly found France less hierarchical than Portugal in general, for his time, for what it's worth. Damning with faint praise.

As for (francophone) Switzerland and France being close, that's not what I hear.

Why do we have this hijack by the way?
Loupil Gris still triggered by a French grammar rule of Italian origin or what?

[Grey Fox]

Or what.

I said that I understand the French not wanting to work 2 more years considering they have a toxic work environment.

[Duque de Bragança]

So a pure off-topic rant. 

[Jacob]

So a pure off-topic rant. 

Nothing ranty about it, though. Not really off topic either, given it's directly related to the current topic in the thread.

[Duque de Bragança]

So a pure off-topic rant. 

Nothing ranty about it, though. Not really off topic either, given it's directly related to the current topic in the thread.

Goupil Gris likes to rant all the time about French things, be it some grammar rule with counterintuitive exceptions imported from Italy (the horror!) or work places of a country he has never experienced.

Furthermore, it's not directly related to the current topic, since it's not about French work places being toxic, but work and financing pensions in the long termn in general (executives employees and workers have different perspectives), not to mention he current ivory tower dweller at the Élysée, in particular.

[Jacob]

Goupil Gris likes to rant all the time about French things, be it some grammar rule with counterintuitive exceptions imported from Italy (the horror!) or work places of a country he has never experienced.

French companies do operate internationally and people outside of France sometimes work for them. Similarly, French companies do business with non-French companies. This can allow people outside of France to develop informed opinions about French workplace culture.

I have no opinion about French grammar rules, however, imported from Italy (the horror!) or not.

Furthermore, it's not directly related to the current topic, since it's not about French work places being toxic, but work and financing pensions in the long termn in general (executives employees and workers have different perspectives), not to mention he current ivory tower dweller at the Élysée, in particular.

It was a joke that was perfectly germane to the topic at hand, and very much in character for languish. As is your indignant defence of French honour

[Duque de Bragança]

French companies do operate internationally and people outside oft France sometimes work for them. Similarly, French companies do business with non-French companies allowing people. his allows them to develop informed opinions about French workplace culture.

Remember, according to Zupiter, there is not a French culture, so French companies abroad would not operate differently from the country they are doing business in or with. 

I have no opinion about French grammar rules, however, imported from Italy (the horror!) or not.

Think of that rule as one which would perhaps legitimately despair Josquius, for once. 
It's the exceptions I find troublesome, not the rule itself. I could enter into details but that would not very interesting, and probably trigger Goupil Gris.   
That's one rule I would reform, by removing the exceptions.

 

It was a joke that was perfectly germane to the topic at hand, and very much in character for languish. As is your indignant defence of French honour

For you maybe, but not for Goupil Gris.   

[Jacob]

Remember, according to Zupiter, there is not a French culture, so French companies abroad would not operate differently from the country they are doing business in or with. 

I did not realize you were so loyal to Zupiter that you would accept that

Think of that rule as one which would perhaps legitimately despair Josquius, for once. 
It's the exceptions I find troublesome, not the rule itself. I could enter into details but that would not very interesting, and probably trigger Goupil Gris.   

That's one rule I would reform, by removing the exceptions.

I guess now you have to storm the Academy to force through your proposed changes?

For you maybe, but not for Goupil Gris.   

Seems to be pretty in character, since he's the one who made the statement...

[HVC]

I seem to recall he works for a French company.

[Duque de Bragança]

I did not realize you were so loyal to Zupiter that you would accept that

Easy, the opportunist and demagog he is changes idea whenever convenient so you just have to wait. Remember when he was trying to get a majority against the leftists by considering Marine's party as "republican"?
OTOH, I'll grant you he can be a bit hard to follow at times.

I guess now you have to storm the Academy to force through your proposed changes?

Won't work, they are the Immortals.
Besides, from time to time they propose some simplification reforms and people are still unhappy.
I still don't get how people were triggered back in 1990 with that very limited spelling reform.

Best be patient, besides I can live with those exceptions, unlike Goupil Gris.

Teachers of French as a foreign language might disagree.

Seems to be pretty in character, since he's the one who made the statement...

Precisely. 

[mongers]

So a pure off-topic rant. 

Duque did you take part in this, seems right up your street/champs:

[Duque de Bragança]

Missed it. Alphonse Daudet's Les Lettres de mon moulin?
Could have been worse.

I don't live close to the Arc de Triomphe anymore and I had family visiting so I was busy as the local scout.

PS: local scout advice
During the high season, avoid Orlybus when going to Paris from Orly airport.