Coronavirus Sars-CoV-2/Covid-19 Megathread

[Jacob]

So apparently youtube is going to block and remove antivax content: https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/youtube-anti-vax-1.6193392

[HVC]

Mah Freedoms!

[Razgovory]

Sometimes I wonder if were too successful in making our saves safe.  200 years ago people dealt with sudden death all the time.  Every mother knew that the odds were high that at least one of here children would die before adulthood. Cholera could sweep through a neighborhood and kill 10% of the residents.  Hell, 100 years ago it wasn't great.  Today most people die in the 70's in a hospital.  Deaths are rarely sudden.  Are people so used to being safe, they can't adjust when a serious danger comes?

[viper37]

Sometimes I wonder if were too successful in making our saves safe.  200 years ago people dealt with sudden death all the time.  Every mother knew that the odds were high that at least one of here children would die before adulthood. Cholera could sweep through a neighborhood and kill 10% of the residents.  Hell, 100 years ago it wasn't great.  Today most people die in the 70's in a hospital.  Deaths are rarely sudden.  Are people so used to being safe, they can't adjust when a serious danger comes?

100 years ago, people didn't go to hospital when they were sick, unless they were very rich or they were soldiers sent to a military hospital.  They also didn't pay taxes for healthcare.

Nowadays, we expect the hospital to help us when we get there for a road accident (something much rarer in 1920s) or a cardiac arrest.  We pay for it, we are entitled for it.  If the emergency ward is overwhelmed by sick people who simply refused to take appropriate measure to protect themselves, then either we refuse to treat them, or we keep on treating people as per the emergency level and triage rules, which means that the 40 years old mom in a car accident might not receive medical care since there's no more ventilator available.

[Eddie Teach]

Sometimes I wonder if were too successful in making our saves safe.

Disagree. It really sucks when they get corrupted or overwritten. 

[The Brain]

Safe doesn't just fall from the sky.

[jimmy olsen]

My 2nd shot is tomorrow.

[Josquius]

I'm hearing lots of stories of stupid people under 30 getting covid.

[Tamas]

I'm hearing lots of stories of stupid people under 30 getting covid.

TBF all of us will get it, probably fairly soon.

[garbon]

I'm hearing lots of stories of stupid people under 30 getting covid.

TBF all of us will get it, probably fairly soon.

It better not get into my hermitage!

[alfred russel]

Sometimes I wonder if were too successful in making our saves safe.  200 years ago people dealt with sudden death all the time.  Every mother knew that the odds were high that at least one of here children would die before adulthood. Cholera could sweep through a neighborhood and kill 10% of the residents.  Hell, 100 years ago it wasn't great.  Today most people die in the 70's in a hospital.  Deaths are rarely sudden.  Are people so used to being safe, they can't adjust when a serious danger comes?

One of my go to topics when with a group of people and conversation lags is, "you wake up tomorrow and it is 1850. Only you have been transported back in time - you don't have books, tools, anything else. What do you do with the rest of your life?" Is the answer that many people would live their lives as effective shut ins, only leaving for essential activities, as the infectious disease risk was way higher back in those days than covid today?

I think the real answer is that many people are incapable of assessing risk and easily scared by shiny new dangers without perspective on the risks that have always been with us. A few weeks ago I was going to post a study in the UK that in the samples measured the risk to unvaccinated kids was less than any age group of vaccinated adults. I thought of looking up the mortality among children from automobile accidents and comparing to covid--but it probably isn't worth the energy.

[Josquius]

Ffs.
Just been to a "hospital" (small private thing. Had no idea they existed. Bloody hell.) for the foie gras treatment.
One of the nurses prepping, a woman I guess in her late 50s, asked if I'd been vaxed... Said she had been and was due for a booster soon then went off on one how it's not right putting all these chemicals in your body, nobody knows if it's safe, etc....
Given what was about to happen I didn't argue.
Amazing how even people who really should know better get wrapped up in this.

[Sheilbh]

I think the real answer is that many people are incapable of assessing risk and easily scared by shiny new dangers without perspective on the risks that have always been with us. A few weeks ago I was going to post a study in the UK that in the samples measured the risk to unvaccinated kids was less than any age group of vaccinated adults. I thought of looking up the mortality among children from automobile accidents and comparing to covid--but it probably isn't worth the energy.

I've mentioned before but there are areas where North America and Europe are really diverging.

Schools and attitudes to children seems to be the biggest. The policies in parts of North America seem absolutely crazy from a European perspective, while our approach no doubt seems incredibly high risk from there.

Also vaccine passports/mandates, because I think Scotland is considering a vaccine mandate with no exemption for people with a negative test as the alternative - but it's the first jurisdiction in Europe to consider this with no exemption route (France has an exemption and free testing but is planning to make it only free for people who've already been vaccinated, which I quite like ).

[Sheilbh]

Ffs.
Just been to a "hospital" (small private thing. Had no idea they existed. Bloody hell.) for the foie gras treatment.
One of the nurses prepping, a woman I guess in her late 50s, asked if I'd been vaxed... Said she had been and was due for a booster soon then went off on one how it's not right putting all these chemicals in your body, nobody knows if it's safe, etc....
Given what was about to happen I didn't argue.
Amazing how even people who really should know better get wrapped up in this.

I don't mind if someone complaining about all those things has already been double-vaxxed and is going for their booster shot.

If only all the people who were moaning about how it's not right etc were so compliant to social pressure/norms.

[Grey Fox]

My 2nd shot is tomorrow.