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Started by Syt, January 18, 2020, 09:36:09 AM

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crazy canuck

Quote from: Sheilbh on March 12, 2021, 01:10:35 PM
Quote from: The Larch on March 12, 2021, 12:58:18 PM
So apparently Canadian Catholic bishops have issued a warning to their parrishioners for them to avoid the AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines, claiming that they're made with stem cells obtained from abortions.  :huh:
This is North American culture wars - US and Canadian bishops are dividing on this.

The Vatican's adopted a different and more nuanced position but it's not hard line enough for some North American bishops :lol: <_<

Certainly ties in with the discussion we were having in the other thread about North American Christian fundamentalism.

Barrister

Quote from: Sheilbh on March 12, 2021, 01:06:03 PM
QuoteNovavax's vaccine was 100% effective at preventing severe Covid-19 and had a 96.4% efficacy rate against the original strain of the virus, even higher than the BioNTech/Pfizer and Moderna shots, according to analysis of its trial

Also apparently there were trials in the UK and it is similarly effective against the new UK variant/B117 :w00t:

But only 55% effective in preventing the South African variant (although still effective at preventing serious outcomes).

This is the vaccine that's been licensed to produce in Canada... whenever the government new manufacturing facility if built and certified. <_<
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celedhring

That's great news. How good are the other vaccines at preventing shitty outcomes for variants?

HVC

Quote from: Sheilbh on March 12, 2021, 01:10:35 PM
Quote from: The Larch on March 12, 2021, 12:58:18 PM
So apparently Canadian Catholic bishops have issued a warning to their parrishioners for them to avoid the AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines, claiming that they're made with stem cells obtained from abortions.  :huh:
This is North American culture wars - US and Canadian bishops are dividing on this.

The Vatican's adopted a different and more nuanced position but it's not hard line enough for some North American bishops :lol: <_<

Protestants ruin everything. even Catholicism :D. i blame their influence in NA.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Barrister

Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Sheilbh

Quote from: celedhring on March 12, 2021, 01:34:49 PM
That's great news. How good are the other vaccines at preventing shitty outcomes for variants?
I think they're all very successful at preventing hospitalisation and death across all strains. The main issue is their effectiveness at stopping mild infections.

QuoteProtestants ruin everything. even Catholicism :D. i blame their influence in NA.
Right?! :lol: <_<
Let's bomb Russia!

HVC

Quote from: Barrister on March 12, 2021, 01:36:08 PM
Quote from: HVC on March 12, 2021, 01:35:02 PM
Protestants ruin everything. even Catholicism :D.

WAD

:shifty:

Didn't you go to a jesuit school? thought you were one of the god guys?
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

alfred russel

Quote from: crazy canuck on March 12, 2021, 01:17:43 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 12, 2021, 01:10:35 PM
Quote from: The Larch on March 12, 2021, 12:58:18 PM
So apparently Canadian Catholic bishops have issued a warning to their parrishioners for them to avoid the AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines, claiming that they're made with stem cells obtained from abortions.  :huh:
This is North American culture wars - US and Canadian bishops are dividing on this.

The Vatican's adopted a different and more nuanced position but it's not hard line enough for some North American bishops :lol: <_<

Certainly ties in with the discussion we were having in the other thread about North American Christian fundamentalism.

It seems weird to consider a hard line stance on use of vaccines developed from certain stem cell lines to be christian fundamentalism. You really need to strain to get to that point of view from biblical literalism.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Barrister

Quote from: HVC on March 12, 2021, 02:02:14 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 12, 2021, 01:36:08 PM
Quote from: HVC on March 12, 2021, 01:35:02 PM
Protestants ruin everything. even Catholicism :D.

WAD

:shifty:

Didn't you go to a jesuit school? thought you were one of the god guys?

It's like you don't even know me at all. :weep:
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Grey Fox

The Bishops are also spinning it that it's encouraging vaccination & were misinterpreted.

In Quebec, you don't get to pick your vaccine. So, good luck to the crazy catholics who care.
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

HVC

Quote from: Barrister on March 12, 2021, 02:06:46 PM
Quote from: HVC on March 12, 2021, 02:02:14 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 12, 2021, 01:36:08 PM
Quote from: HVC on March 12, 2021, 01:35:02 PM
Protestants ruin everything. even Catholicism :D.

WAD

:shifty:

Didn't you go to a jesuit school? thought you were one of the god guys?

It's like you don't even know me at all. :weep:

thought you were Ukrainian catholic, like malthus' inlaws :D
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: HVC on March 12, 2021, 01:35:02 PM
Protestants ruin everything. even Catholicism :D. i blame their influence in NA.

An obvious exception is the EU, which Catholics tried to ruin. :nerd:

HVC

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 12, 2021, 02:20:34 PM
Quote from: HVC on March 12, 2021, 01:35:02 PM
Protestants ruin everything. even Catholicism :D. i blame their influence in NA.

An obvious exception is the EU, which Catholics tried to ruin. :nerd:

which catholics? the brits are protestants, so again protestants ruin everything haha


*edit* oh, you mean the PIGS?
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Barrister

Quote from: HVC on March 12, 2021, 02:13:55 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 12, 2021, 02:06:46 PM
Quote from: HVC on March 12, 2021, 02:02:14 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 12, 2021, 01:36:08 PM
Quote from: HVC on March 12, 2021, 01:35:02 PM
Protestants ruin everything. even Catholicism :D.

WAD

:shifty:

Didn't you go to a jesuit school? thought you were one of the god guys?

It's like you don't even know me at all. :weep:

thought you were Ukrainian catholic, like malthus' inlaws :D

Nah.  My Ukrainian-Canadian didn't grow up with much religion, so when we went to Church it was with my mom to a United Church.

My wife and I kind of... stopped going to Church when it conflicted with hockey so much  :Embarrass: but we were going to an Alliance Church.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

HVC

Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.