Coronavirus Sars-CoV-2/Covid-19 Megathread

[Duque de Bragança]

 Record of new Covid cases beaten yesterday : 18,746. ICU beds occupancy  slightly reduced.

[viper37]

these people used their saliva to turn the pages... 

That habit needs to die 

Yes.

[mongers]

Maybe this isn't the 2nd wave but the major assault itself, what happened in the early Spring was just the meeting engagement when neither side knew each other's disposition, strengths and weaknesses. 

[Barrister]

Maybe this isn't the 2nd wave but the major assault itself, what happened in the early Spring was just the meeting engagement when neither side knew each other's disposition, strengths and weaknesses.

I dunno - the first wave is where we had all the deaths.

I mean - people are still dieing but at nowhere near the same rate.

[celedhring]

these people used their saliva to turn the pages... 

That habit needs to die 

Jorge de Burgos was right all along. 

[The Brain]

these people used their saliva to turn the pages... 

That habit needs to die 

Jorge de Burgos was right all along. 

He always is.

[Razgovory]

these people used their saliva to turn the pages... 

That habit needs to die 

Jorge de Burgos was right all along. 

Damn it, I was going to make that reference.

[celedhring]

Great minds think alike!

[The Larch]

Spain invokes state of emergency to impose partial lockdown on Madrid
Spain's government invoked a state of emergency on Friday to impose a partial lockdown on Madrid, one of Europe's worst Covid-19 hotspots, after a court had struck down the measures.

The move escalates a standoff between prime minister Pedro Sanchez's socialist government and the conservative Madrid regional chief, who believes the curbs are illegal, excessive and disastrous for the local economy.

Following a health ministry order, Madrid authorities last week reluctantly barred all non-essential travel in and out of the city and other nearby towns.

The region had 723 coronavirus cases per 100,000 people in the two weeks to 8 October, according to the World Health Organization, making it Europe's second densest cluster after Andorra.

But instead of a blanket restriction, the Madrid region chief Isabel Diaz Ayuso wants tailored restrictions in different neighbourhoods according to local contagion levels.

A Madrid court sided with her on Thursday, effectively suspending the restrictions and prompting the government's response with an emergency order.

[celedhring]

I found it both sad and hillarious how Ayuso wanted just to lock down districts with AI over 700, like everywhere else was like fine and dandy.

The central government has its own share of blame though, it should have stepped in sooner. The "let's see if you do better!" attitude after the previous state of emergency was lifted and health care reverted to the regions has been quite transparent.

[Sheilbh]

Interesting:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/08/more-than-80-positive-cases-in-covid-study-had-no-core-symptoms

ONS study which is a randomised survey (not testing people who have symptoms or are in high-risk areas) of 36,000 people between April and June found that over 85% of people who tested positive did not have the "core" symptoms (cough, fever, loss of taste/smell). Under 75% said they had any symptoms at all.

[DGuller]

Interesting:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/08/more-than-80-positive-cases-in-covid-study-had-no-core-symptoms

ONS study which is a randomised survey (not testing people who have symptoms or are in high-risk areas) of 36,000 people between April and June found that over 85% of people who tested positive did not have the "core" symptoms (cough, fever, loss of taste/smell). Under 75% said they had any symptoms at all.

I think this summary is misleading.  They didn't have symptoms at the time they tested positive, but some did go on to develop symptoms.  The implication is that it's very hard to contain the infections because the disease is spread before spreaders have symptoms.

[Sheilbh]

I think this summary is misleading.  They didn't have symptoms at the time they tested positive, but some did go on to develop symptoms.  The implication is that it's very hard to contain the infections because the disease is spread before spreaders have symptoms.

Sorry

That is a better summary and sort of confirms what we knew, but it still seems very high especially given that April-June was probably the peak here.

[Josquius]

On a lighter note. The anti vaxers are hard at work

https://news.sky.com/story/coronvairus-dr-johnny-bananas-and-dr-person-fakename-among-medical-signatories-on-herd-immunity-open-letter-12099947

Coronavirus: 'Dr Johnny Bananas' and 'Dr Person Fakename' among medical signatories on herd immunity open letter
Other listed supporters include Dr Harold Shipman and Dominic Cummings of "Durham Univercity".

[mongers]

Maybe this isn't the 2nd wave but the major assault itself, what happened in the early Spring was just the meeting engagement when neither side knew each other's disposition, strengths and weaknesses.

I dunno - the first wave is where we had all the deaths.

I mean - people are still dieing but at nowhere near the same rate.

BB, you're sort of making two rather big assumptions there?

Aren't we still in uncharted territory regarding this pandemic?