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Started by Syt, January 18, 2020, 09:36:09 AM

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Sheilbh

So apparently Leicester might be the first place to be put into local lockdown. There's apparently some issue with infection control in a local hospital. And a quarter of Leicester's total infections have happened in the last two weeks.
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Quote from: Sheilbh on June 28, 2020, 10:44:36 AM
So apparently Leicester might be the first place to be put into local lockdown. There's apparently some issue with infection control in a local hospital. And a quarter of Leicester's total infections have happened in the last two weeks.

It's the price they have to pay for selling theirs souls and winning the Premier League in 2016.  You knew there would be a reckoning sometime.
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Quote from: alfred russel on June 27, 2020, 12:47:55 PM

In summary, people don't give a shit anymore. People are just living their lives almost as normal. I've been taking more care than some people I know (i'm at least wearing a mask when indoors but not at home or a gym), but here is where we are:

I don't think there is the political will to go back to lockdown, and people will ignore it anyway. I don't know if this is a southern US thing, if you guys see it but are not posting about it, or if you guys are staying inside and not seeing what is happening. But here there are crowds all over the place.

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It's getting pretty weird here in Florida. In the initial stages of the 6 week lockdown we had here people were scared and there was quite a bit of mask wearing. I went back to work on May 8th, a week after reopening. The restaurant I work at has had steady business, and it has increased, despite the fact that we operate at limited capacity. I'm relieved to be working, and while making only a portion of my pre Covid income, I can survive on my 3 or 4 days a week albeit with rather frugal living.

Up until a few weeks ago I had resigned myself to just scratching my head and admitting I'm neither a virologist nor an epidemiologist and that my grasp of what is happening is limited, and that Florida seemed to have dodged a bullet - huzzah!! I'm not a social person outside of work, bike rides and running are done alone - but my gf and I started going to the beach (theres a beach in Florida I've discovered) which is getting more and more crowded. We are still in our masks for errands - and both of us are mandated mask wearers in our respective workplaces.

A couple of weeks ago infection rates tick up, and at the same time we get the news that the RNC is coming to Jacksonville. That's money for this waiter, but I have had my concerns put on record that Jacksonville doesn't have enough quality male escorts to support the convention goers. Presumably they will fly them in. I start waiting on the meeting planners, one of my eyes is on these infection rates.

My co workers are concerned, as am I that we will have a surge in infection rates/hospitalizations and that our business will slow down or even be shuttered once more. There is a portion of my colleagues, perhaps 20 to 30 % who earnestly believe some version of "media panic/just the flu/Plandemic".

In the last week restaurants and bars have started closing down when their staff begin testing positive. We have sent four of my colleagues for testing, all negative so far. Mask wearing seems to have picked back up in public. My employer has become much more serious about taking staff temperatures when we arrive at work, disinfecting doors and handrails and so forth. We are determined to keep operating, and the owner and the managers are of the opinion that Governor DeSantis and Mayor Curry will under no circumstances impose any measures that will jeopardize hosting the convention in two months time.

The city of St.Augustine, where I live, has imposed mandatory mask wearing inside public buildings within city limits.

We have a long way to go before a vaccine, as I understand it. We are going to have to live with this virus until then and we have apparently squandered our best chance at using a very costly lockdown to control it. Now we are just watching to see if hospitalization rates balloon with infection rates. The virus clearly isn't Armageddon, or a death sentence, but it is dangerous and non trivial. We have allowed it into our enviroment, a terrible mistake. Even more bizarrely we have become politically opposed to concerted attempts at mitigation.

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Sheilbh

And the weird decisions don't seem limited to certain states. From what I'm reading New York is allowing indoor service in bars and restuarants before they're re-opening some outdoor public spaces :blink:
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They should just allow curbside pickup of cocktails like California does.

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Tamas

So, non-UK residents (except Americans, we know they are fucked), are illegal mass parties in parks/streets an issue in your country as well, or is it just proverbial British common sense triumphing? Every bloody day there's at least one instance of hundreds of people crowding up and partying.  :glare:

Syt

Vienna's Danube Canal has turned into a party zone. Normally there's a succession of pop up bars along the water in summer, now people gather there on their own accord. Police have started breaking up larger gatherings and ensuring the 1 meter distance is kept.





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Quote from: Tamas on June 28, 2020, 12:09:57 PM
So, non-UK residents (except Americans, we know they are fucked), are illegal mass parties in parks/streets an issue in your country as well, or is it just proverbial British common sense triumphing? Every bloody day there's at least one instance of hundreds of people crowding up and partying.  :glare:

Nothing on the UK scale, no. Probably not possible since we're a lot less & over a much bigger geographical area. There have been parks by rivers that do get overwhelmed tho.
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Quote from: Tamas on June 28, 2020, 12:09:57 PM
So, non-UK residents (except Americans, we know they are fucked), are illegal mass parties in parks/streets an issue in your country as well, or is it just proverbial British common sense triumphing? Every bloody day there's at least one instance of hundreds of people crowding up and partying.  :glare:
Happens in Germany too, mainly in bigger cities. Lots of youth meeting in parks with music, alcohol and other drugs. The police sometimes dispersed them.
Berlin like two weeks ago:


Last week saw a major riot in Stuttgart when about 500 young males broke windows, looted some stores and destroyed police vehicles. 

Sheilbh

I've seen similar in Milan too. I don't think it's a uniquely British thing.

The Liverpool celebrations were uniquely English behaviour by those fans though <_<
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crazy canuck

Quote from: DGuller on June 27, 2020, 07:22:09 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 27, 2020, 03:40:33 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 27, 2020, 12:35:55 PM
I don't get it...

Yep
See, this is exactly what I was talking about.  AR questioned your facts with what seems like reliable facts to the contrary, and your only response is ... this.  I don't get where you and your clique get this arrogance from, at no point did it appear to be earned on merit.

My facts?  I was linking a report.  You guys are so fucked up you think you know better than the people who know how to analyze the data.  That is really the problem with the US isn't it.  Complete distrust of the scientists that have been telling you and the AF's of the world to change your ways.  But nope, rock walls are really really important.

viper37

Quote from: Tamas on June 28, 2020, 12:09:57 PM
So, non-UK residents (except Americans, we know they are fucked), are illegal mass parties in parks/streets an issue in your country as well, or is it just proverbial British common sense triumphing? Every bloody day there's at least one instance of hundreds of people crowding up and partying.  :glare:
in my neck of the woods, I can count on on hand the number of days where it was nice going outdoor.  Early on, the first beautiful spring days, there were a lot of people in parks.  Since then, the nice days have been busy with protests in Montreal, no time to throw parties, except if you count the silly protests.

However, as everything is slowly reopening, I see more people with masks, and social distancing isn't an issue over here, people do keep their distances.  Montreal is another matter, again.
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Quote from: crazy canuck on June 28, 2020, 05:08:57 PM
My facts?  I was linking a report.  You guys are so fucked up you think you know better than the people who know how to analyze the data.  That is really the problem with the US isn't it.  Complete distrust of the scientists that have been telling you and the AF's of the world to change your ways.  But nope, rock walls are really really important.
I guess if it's in some report, then it must be unimpeachable, and there is no reason to check its facts.  And for what it's worth, analyzing the data is my day job.  That said, your day job is making arguments that stick, so it's really not a convincing appeal to authority, now that I think of it.  :hmm: