Coronavirus Sars-CoV-2/Covid-19 Megathread

[Legbiter]

Arizona ICU's are full.

Texas had 2500 new cases yesterday.

Things are not looking good in the southwest.

How long ago did they relax their respective lockdowns?  2 weeks or thereabouts?

[Sheilbh]

The weird divergence between the R value modellers and the ONS survey continues:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/latest

For a long time ONS data and the models of R value were more or less in sync. They've diverged in the last week or two and I don't think anyone knows why.

[Tamas]

I don't think anyone knows why.

That's the summary of the government's pandemic response right there.

[Sheilbh]

Edit: Or, put another way:

[jimmy olsen]

This sounds terrible.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-india-53014213/coronavirus-overwhelmed-india-hospitals-turn-covid-patients-away

Overwhelmed India hospitals turn Covid patients away
India's capital Delhi could have more than half a million coronavirus cases by the end of July, according to officials.

Meanwhile, the number of Covid-19 cases in the country's worst-affected city, Mumbai, has surpassed Wuhan in China, where the virus first appeared.

Hospitals in the country are struggling to cope with the number of patients they're getting. Many are dying without getting the treatment they need.

[Tamas]

So how many people have died in Italy then? In the UK even the confirmed number has reached 41,000.

[Sheilbh]

So how many people have died in Italy then? In the UK even the confirmed number has reached 41,000.

That only includes positive tests though. The cumulative deaths registered with covid as a cause are over 50,000 up to 29 May for England. I think UK wide it's up to about 64,000 up to 29 May (+57%) - including indirect deaths.

Italy doesn't have official data on this because they do death registration updates quarterly, but the FT have been scraping data from other sources:

[Tamas]

No wonder we are leaving the EU, seems like they would just slow us down.

[crazy canuck]

BC is now 7 days without a COVID death; 13 in hospital; 5 in ICU. 

[celedhring]

The Barcelona city council has tested sewage waters for Sars-CoV-2, and found virus traces dating back to January (but no traces in sewage collected in December). First confirmed Covid case in town was in late February.

[Sheilbh]

The Barcelona city council has tested sewage waters for Sars-CoV-2, and found virus traces dating back to January (but no traces in sewage collected in December). First confirmed Covid case in town was in late February.

Interesting. In the UK PHE have said they can't rule out that it was present in late December-early January and there have been individual cases of surprising pneumonia cases that doctors have looked back and said might well actually have been covid. Which I think aligns with what they've found in Barcelona and the first case that's now been found in France on 27 December. It's not the thousands of missed cases that everyone seems to think they had in January, but I think the indications it was probably here in Europe and spreading in communities a lot earlier than anyone thought (for example I think the French authorities hadn't found any link to Wuhan or China in their 27 December case).

I think the first cases in the UK were found on 31 January, but were two Chinese tourists who were confined to their rooms in a hotel in York.

[merithyn]

The Barcelona city council has tested sewage waters for Sars-CoV-2, and found virus traces dating back to January (but no traces in sewage collected in December). First confirmed Covid case in town was in late February.

Phew!

[merithyn]

The Barcelona city council has tested sewage waters for Sars-CoV-2, and found virus traces dating back to January (but no traces in sewage collected in December). First confirmed Covid case in town was in late February.

Interesting. In the UK PHE have said they can't rule out that it was present in late December-early January and there have been individual cases of surprising pneumonia cases that doctors have looked back and said might well actually have been covid. Which I think aligns with what they've found in Barcelona and the first case that's now been found in France on 27 December. It's not the thousands of missed cases that everyone seems to think they had in January, but I think the indications it was probably here in Europe and spreading in communities a lot earlier than anyone thought (for example I think the French authorities hadn't found any link to Wuhan or China in their 27 December case).

I think the first cases in the UK were found on 31 January, but were two Chinese tourists who were confined to their rooms in a hotel in York.

I came home from Europe on January 4th with a severe upper respiratory infection. I was pretty sick for a week there, and a week at home, but no cough or shortness of breath.

As there is apparently no way for me to get a COVID antibody test, I won't know if I've had it unless or until that is more widely available. If I did, Toni is probably pretty safe, since he traveled with me a good chunk of that time.

If it was COVID, I will also feel less like a big whiney baby for how I felt then.

[Tonitrus]

If it was COVID, then it is amazing that I didn't get it.  Or my immune system is super-human. 

[merithyn]

If it was COVID, then it is amazing that I didn't get it.  Or my immune system is super-human. 

Or you were lucky and were asymptomatic.