Coronavirus Sars-CoV-2/Covid-19 Megathread

[The Brain]

Well, "you get what you pay for" isn't an empty phrase. And if something is given to you free then you are the product.

[mongers]

  Not to the trumpites, but that 17% of democrats are also unlikely to take the vaccine.  Again 

[Valmy]

We have our share of hippies-new agey-don't trust big pharma nut balls.

Frankly my mind is kind of blown that somehow conservatives are now more insane than hippies.

[DGuller]

Right-wingers don't hold the monopoly on stupid, especially not when it comes to anti-vax shit.

[mongers]

We have our share of hippies-new agey-don't trust big pharma nut balls.

Frankly my mind is kind of blown that somehow conservatives are now more insane than hippies.

Yep still fuckwits the lot of them.

If scientists do develop a widely effective vaccination, personally I'd like to see it be made mandatory here if people are to access health care and public transport/services; let the doubting thomases spin on it.

[Josquius]

I think it's expected there'll be a bigger than normal percent of people saying no considering its new and unproven. I understand why some may be cautious and want to see everyone who is taking it being fine first. I mean sure. That's why vaccines go through rigorous testing. But daft gotta daft.

[celedhring]

I think it's expected there'll be a bigger than normal percent of people saying no considering its new and unproven. I understand why some may be cautious and want to see everyone who is taking it being fine first. I mean sure. That's why vaccines go through rigorous testing. But daft gotta daft.

I'm on the same boat, to be honest. I'm no anti-vaxxer by any means, but there's a reason why vaccines take so long to get approved.

Of course, if the epidemic got bad again I'd take it for herd immunity reasons.

[jimmy olsen]

Arizona ICU's are full.

Texas had 2500 new cases yesterday.

Things are not looking good in the southwest.

[Admiral Yi]

So maybe that hot weather kills it theory is a bust.

[jimmy olsen]

So maybe that hot weather kills it theory is a bust.

Well, it's out of control in Brazil, so yeah. I think so.

[Zanza]

Infection numbers are slowly creeping up again in Germany. 

[Sheilbh]

So maybe that hot weather kills it theory is a bust.

I don't think the theory is that it kills it, just that it reduces transmission - but that's part of loads of factors in outdoor transmission being really low. And the counter-point, especially in the US, we know that AC spreads it and indoor spaces are more dangerous.

There's a few US States that look worrying - the case numbers are rising both in absolute and as a % of tests and hospitalisation rates are rising (which is, of course, a lagging indicator). I don't think it's just the South-West from what I've seen this seems to be happening in Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, the Carolinas, Texas, Tennessee and Utah. I think I read in the WashPost that there were 14 states that were now at their highest 7-day rolling average of new cases per day.

[Duque de Bragança]

We have our share of hippies-new agey-don't trust big pharma nut balls.

Frankly my mind is kind of blown that somehow conservatives are now more insane than hippies.

Yep still fuckwits the lot of them.

If scientists do develop a widely effective vaccination, personally I'd like to see it be made mandatory here if people are to access health care and public transport/services; let the doubting thomases spin on it.

Some Hollywood celebrities did their share of anti-vaccination. Hello Jim Carrey, hello De Niro.
Politically, the biggest anti-vaxxer around here is Michèle Rivasi, number 2 on the Greens list for the last European Elections. Number one of the list claimed he did not know. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michèle_Rivasi

Rivasi describes herself as "vaccination skeptic".[9] She is a strong supporter of alternative medicine and homeopathy.[10]

Plus some classic green positions which may or may not be criticized but are hardly comparable and very far from the stance who made her famous.

She opposes the planned Midi-Catalonia (Midcat) pipeline that would more than double the amount of gas that can be piped across the Pyrenees mountains that border Spain and France.[11]

[Sheilbh]

I think it's fairly extraordinary that Richard Horton is still editor of The Lancet given that he was the editor who published the Andrew Wakefield "research" on MMR and autism, and he only retracted that paper 12 years later in 2010.

He comments a lot on covid and while I sometimes agree with him - every time I see him pop up I just feel that he shouldn't really be in our conversation about public health any more.

[Duque de Bragança]

Thanks for the info, I did not know that.