Coronavirus Sars-CoV-2/Covid-19 Megathread

[Sheilbh]

Museums are to open next week. There's talk of opening restaurants, with mandatory masks for staff, and a limit of how many people are allowed inside. While I think that restaurants are among the hardest hit businesses in the crisis, I don't know how much it helps them. Many are barely profitable on the best of days, and limiting the number of guests might only slow down but not remedy the issue.

The warning here is that pubs and restaurants are likely to be among the last things to reopen

But this is a really good point - I have no idea how the economics of restaurants work in this world. Some of my favourite ones in London are tiny - basically just a bar and 10 seats, I can't see how that survives. But then even other ones rely on people squeezed in and turning tables fairly quickly.

I have noticed that many that initially transitioned to Deliveroo have now stopped presumably because they're not making enough money that way (on the other hand there are a few pubs on the apps that will hand deliver a pint ).

[Syt]

In the inner city, a lot of them seem to make money primarily with lunch menus for people working in the area, I think.

[Josquius]

I really worry about the local board game cafe. Their margins were already tight, they just started a little over a year ago so were still in the buildup phase.
Restaurants at least have a chance with uber eats et al. But places whose entire business is in providing the conditions for people to be social...

[Agelastus]

I would treat every assumption out of Sweden with a great pinch of salt. There must be tremendous desire to justify their care home eugenics program they opted for instead of a lockdown.

Tamas, can you drop the "bargain-basement Tyr" Shtick please; it's becoming increasingly wearing as the weeks go by.

[celedhring]

Restaurant profit margins are really thin, even a lot of the expensive ones. I suppose they could try to adapt by reducing staff and ingredient purchases to match the new limitations, but fixed costs will probably still do them in.

Over here talk is opening restaurants as one of the last measures, by the end of the year.

Given that Spain has the largest density in the EU of pubs/bars per population, and 12% of our GDP is tourism, we're totally fucked.

[garbon]

I would treat every assumption out of Sweden with a great pinch of salt. There must be tremendous desire to justify their care home eugenics program they opted for instead of a lockdown.

Tamas, can you drop the "bargain-basement Tyr" Shtick please; it's becoming increasingly wearing as the weeks go by.

Woo! Two personal attacks for the price of one.

[mongers]

I would treat every assumption out of Sweden with a great pinch of salt. There must be tremendous desire to justify their care home eugenics program they opted for instead of a lockdown.

Tamas, can you drop the "bargain-basement Tyr" Shtick please; it's becoming increasingly wearing as the weeks go by.

Woo! Two personal attacks for the price of one.

Jealous? 

[garbon]

I would treat every assumption out of Sweden with a great pinch of salt. There must be tremendous desire to justify their care home eugenics program they opted for instead of a lockdown.

Tamas, can you drop the "bargain-basement Tyr" Shtick please; it's becoming increasingly wearing as the weeks go by.

Woo! Two personal attacks for the price of one.

Jealous? 

You were supposed to aim for 3 in one post.

[The Brain]

I would treat every assumption out of Sweden with a great pinch of salt. There must be tremendous desire to justify their care home eugenics program they opted for instead of a lockdown.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ättestupa

[Maladict]

If Sweden is 30% immune with 1,500 dead that means we and Italy are probably 100% immune by now.

So, no.

30% sounds very high. Last week's estimate here was 3-5%.

[mongers]

The last three at sea cruise ship dock today:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-52350262

[Eddie Teach]

I would treat every assumption out of Sweden with a great pinch of salt. There must be tremendous desire to justify their care home eugenics program they opted for instead of a lockdown.

Tamas, can you drop the "bargain-basement Tyr" Shtick please; it's becoming increasingly wearing as the weeks go by.

Woo! Two personal attacks for the price of one.

I'm not sure I understand the comparison.

[Threviel]

If Sweden is 30% immune with 1,500 dead that means we and Italy are probably 100% immune by now.

So, no.

30% sounds very high. Last week's estimate here was 3-5%.

Random testing and statistical analysis showed that 2.5 percent of Stockholmians carried the virus 26/3-3/4. Actually had the virus active at that time.

[garbon]

I would treat every assumption out of Sweden with a great pinch of salt. There must be tremendous desire to justify their care home eugenics program they opted for instead of a lockdown.

Tamas, can you drop the "bargain-basement Tyr" Shtick please; it's becoming increasingly wearing as the weeks go by.

Woo! Two personal attacks for the price of one.

I'm not sure I understand the comparison.

I don't get any of what he was going for.

[DGuller]

I think it's entirely conceivable that what we call a "mild" case of COVID-19 is actually already a complication, and that there is a whole group of people who got it and never suspected it.